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Bitx40 on 20 m


 

Now that I have the bitx working again with the arduino, I built an off board BPF for 20m.

Using VFO - BFO (25.998600 MHZ -?11.998600 MHZ), the VFO is greatly attenuated when it reaches T2. All I'm getting is 700 mv p-p.

I am assuming that the Q7 to Q9 circuitry is attenuating it. Maybe C91 and C92 have something to do with it. I will investigate.

Guess I can try switching to VFO + BFO to check.

I will post my results.

73

Ken VA3ABN


 

remove the two caps and try.
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On 27-Jan-2017 3:54 am, "Ken" <chase8043@...> wrote:
Now that I have the bitx working again with the arduino, I built an off board BPF for 20m.

Using VFO - BFO (25.998600 MHZ -?11.998600 MHZ), the VFO is greatly attenuated when it reaches T2. All I'm getting is 700 mv p-p.

I am assuming that the Q7 to Q9 circuitry is attenuating it. Maybe C91 and C92 have something to do with it. I will investigate.

Guess I can try switching to VFO + BFO to check.

I will post my results.

73

Ken VA3ABN


 

next thing I will do

73 Ken

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
remove the two caps and try.
- f

On 27-Jan-2017 3:54 am, "Ken" <chase8043@...> wrote:
Now that I have the bitx working again with the arduino, I built an off board BPF for 20m.

Using VFO - BFO (25.998600 MHZ -?11.998600 MHZ), the VFO is greatly attenuated when it reaches T2. All I'm getting is 700 mv p-p.

I am assuming that the Q7 to Q9 circuitry is attenuating it. Maybe C91 and C92 have something to do with it. I will investigate.

Guess I can try switching to VFO + BFO to check.

I will post my results.

73

Ken VA3ABN



 

Let me know how that works out Ken , as soon as the other BITX40 and Radunio's arrive , going to get back on the 20 m conversion here .?



 

Did you get this figured out?...I did the same by replacing the band pass and low pass for 20 meters...when the VFO is set for 2 MHZ I get RX on 20 but on LSB...So I move the VFO to 26 Mhz and I get no RX. So I am betting the ?VFO amp is not working at 26 MHZ. I realize I can move the IF frequency to above 12MHz...


Thank you

Mike WA3O


 

If using the same VFO frequency range as in 40m, shouldn't it be 19 not 26. 19 MHZ - 5 MHZ = 14 MHZ.

73

Ken VA3ABN

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Mike via Groups.Io <mikeymustang2000@...> wrote:

Did you get this figured out?...I did the same by replacing the band pass and low pass for 20 meters...when the VFO is set for 2 MHZ I get RX on 20 but on LSB...So I move the VFO to 26 Mhz and I get no RX. So I am betting the ?VFO amp is not working at 26 MHZ. I realize I can move the IF frequency to above 12MHz...


Thank you

Mike WA3O



 

I just tried this on mine and RX works. I have vfo set to 26MHz (vfo 26 - bfo12 = 14). Don't forget to remove?C91 and C92. It probably won't work otherwise.


 

OOPS, wrong numbers. 12 MHZ + 14 MHZ = 26 MHZ

73 Ken

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Ken <chase8043@...> wrote:
If using the same VFO frequency range as in 40m, shouldn't it be 19 not 26. 19 MHZ - 5 MHZ = 14 MHZ.

73

Ken VA3ABN

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Mike via Groups.Io <mikeymustang2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Did you get this figured out?...I did the same by replacing the band pass and low pass for 20 meters...when the VFO is set for 2 MHZ I get RX on 20 but on LSB...So I move the VFO to 26 Mhz and I get no RX. So I am betting the ?VFO amp is not working at 26 MHZ. I realize I can move the IF frequency to above 12MHz...


Thank you

Mike WA3O




 

I have not removed C91 and C92. I will remove them tomorrow at work with the surface mount removal tools and I will report back...


Thank you!


Mike WA3O


 

Would you mind posting pictures of your bpf mod?
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Ryan Flowers KC7RYS?



 

I will get some good pictures tomorrow... I am using the QRP LABS plugin band pass and low pass filters. I located some header pins on the board so I can switch between bands...


Thank you


Mike WA3O


 

Great Mike, thanks a lot. I am adding 80m to mine with a QRP Labs 80m BPF, but I'm interested in adding 20m as well. Once I get the 80m BPF in it won't be hard to add a 20, and I can use my same method to add a 20m LPF I think. I'm interested in how you're switching them out. Also, does removing?C91 and C92 affect LSB operation? If not, then it's just a matter of removing those, switching filters, and getting the VFO to automatically change offsets, I think!?
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Ryan Flowers KC7RYS?



 

?OK I removed C91and C92 and the BitX40 now receives and transmits on 20 meters on USB using the 26.180mhz -11.995mhz ~14.180. Ken you where correct!

?Ryan I have the pics you asked for but with the storage constraints on the forum in am not sure I should upload them? Is there an email I can send them to?


Thanks to all that helped!

73s

Mike WA3O


 

Mike

May I see them as well?

My email is this one for the group.

73

Ken VA3ABN

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mike via Groups.Io <mikeymustang2000@...> wrote:

?OK I removed C91and C92 and the BitX40 now receives and transmits on 20 meters on USB using the 26.180mhz -11.995mhz ~14.180. Ken you where correct!

?Ryan I have the pics you asked for but with the storage constraints on the forum in am not sure I should upload them? Is there an email I can send them to?


Thanks to all that helped!

73s

Mike WA3O



 

OK here is my Dropbox folder...


Please get them and save them...I will kill the link in a little bit...


Mike WA3O



 

Mike can you email them to kc7rys@...? I am not at home to save them from dropbox. And would you be okay with me sharing them on my site?
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Ryan Flowers KC7RYS?



 

Mike,

An easier fix would be to increase the VFO signal by the raduino software, using the "drive_strength" command.

Just add the following line to the setup() routine:


si5351.drive_strength(SI5351_CLK2, SI5351_DRIVE_8MA);


The drive strength is the amount of current into a 50¦¸ load. 2 mA roughly corresponds to 3 dBm output and 8 mA is approximately 10 dBm output.

I believe the default is 2mA, and you can increase it to max 8mA. This is probably sufficient to compensate for the attenuation of the two caps.

73, Allard PE1NWL


 

Mike

Thanks for the pics. Nice job on the Bitx. Those are QRPLabs filters?

73

Ken VA3ABN

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Mike via Groups.Io <mikeymustang2000@...> wrote:

OK here is my Dropbox folder...


Please get them and save them...I will kill the link in a little bit...


Mike WA3O




 

Hey Mike,

Thanks for the pix. Looks like QRP Labs filters to me- The stock LPF should work for 80 and 60m, so I don't plan on replacing that. I see that you've made it so that you can plug in any filter set, which is very cool! Mine will simply switch out the 40/80m BPF's with less board surgery. When it comes time to go 20m, more work will need to be done for sure.

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Ryan Flowers KC7RYS?



Mvs Sarma
 

Raduino know whether 300¡ã pot or 10 turn pot.? Firmware, perhaps looks for the resistance at that moment and the takes action.
?for experimentation on raduino you can always have a new mega328 and load with same file or do mods etc
?original would be in safe custody>



On Thursday, 30 March 2017 11:20 AM, Ryan Flowers <geocrasher@...> wrote:


Hey Mike,
Thanks for the pix. Looks like QRP Labs filters to me- The stock LPF should work for 80 and 60m, so I don't plan on replacing that. I see that you've made it so that you can plug in any filter set, which is very cool! Mine will simply switch out the 40/80m BPF's with less board surgery. When it comes time to go 20m, more work will need to be done for sure.
--
Ryan Flowers KC7RYS?