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Needed - relay voltage versus frequency for each of the band-pass filter relay drivers #ubitx-help


 

Chasing down SSB transmit oscillations on 40m and 20m, I got suspicious that the band-pass filters were not being properly triggered by their relays on transmit. I measured them and got the results you see below and in a more readable image attached.

Is there a table that give me the voltage v frequency so I can see if mine are correct? I cannot quite match up the circuit description (attached) with TXA, TXB, TXC and which relay should be energized at which frequency.


Frequency MHz??? TXA??? TXB??? TXC??? Notes
Resistor volts right side???
??? ??? R151??? R152??? R153???
3.550??? ??? 5??? 5??? 5???
5.357??? ??? 5??? 5??? 5???
7.200??? ??? 5??? 5??? 0???
10.125??? ??? 5??? 5??? 5??? Audio heard on speaker
14.300??? ??? 5??? 0??? 0??? Distorted audio heard on speaker
18.140??? ??? 5??? 0??? 0???
21.300??? ??? 0??? 0??? 0???
24.940??? ??? 0??? 0??? 0???
28.600??? ??? 0??? 0??? 0???
When right side measures 5v, left side is 0.7v, otherwise 0v??? ??? ??? ???

In case anyone wants to measure the voltages on their working uBitX the photo shows the three resistors.

This is a follow-on to my original call for help on this site:
uBitX SSB transmit oscillations on 40m only
uBitX SSB transmit oscillations on 20m only


 

30m is not correct...should be like 40m.

73 Kees K5BCQ


 

Yes, when you measured 5V, the 2N3904 is turned "on" and that specific relay is "picked". For example on 80m all the relays are "picked". On 10m none of the relays are "picked".

73 Kees K5BCQ
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The relays themselves are 12V.? IF your doing one at each end then
two 6V in series (do not forget the snubbing diodes) will work.

They are switched by a 2n3904 from the atmega328 outputs at 0/5V.

The general scheme is that the relays are a tree to select one of four
with three relays KT1/KT2/KT3.? ?I do not think we want to repeat that
as its part of why we are here.

The code listing is from source V4.3 describes the way its done for the
existing machine. There may be a bug in earlier code for setting the relays.
also the relays are only picked during transmit.

That is alterable.

/**
?* Select the properly tx harmonic filters
?* The four harmonic filters use only three relays
?* the four LPFs cover 30-21 Mhz, 18 - 14 Mhz, 7-10 MHz and 3.5 to 5 Mhz
?* Briefly, it works like this,?
?* - When KT1 is OFF, the 'off' position routes the PA output through the 30 MHz LPF
?* - When KT1 is ON, it routes the PA output to KT2. Which is why you will see that
?*? ?the KT1 is on for the three other cases.
?* - When the KT1 is ON and KT2 is off, the off position of KT2 routes the PA output
?*? ?to 18 MHz LPF (That also works for 14 Mhz)?
?* - When KT1 is On, KT2 is On, it routes the PA output to KT3
?* - KT3, when switched on selects the 7-10 Mhz filter
?* - KT3 when switched off selects the 3.5-5 Mhz filter
?* See the circuit to understand this
?*/
?
void setTXFilters(unsigned long freq){
??
? if (freq > 21000000L){? // the default filter is with 35 MHz cut-off
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_A, 0);
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_B, 0);
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_C, 0);
? }
? else if (freq >= 14000000L){ //thrown the KT1 relay on, the 30 MHz LPF is bypassed and the 14-18 MHz LPF is allowd to go through
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_A, 1);
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_B, 0);
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_C, 0);
? }
? else if (freq > 7000000L){
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_A, 1);
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_B, 1);
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_C, 0);? ??
? }
? else {
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_A, 1);
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_B, 1);
? ? digitalWrite(TX_LPF_C, 1);? ??
? }
}


 

If your rig still has the M1 and M2 audio cutoff connections to relay K3, then what you are hearing in your audio is not a transmitter issue, but an RF overload condition from the TX output back into your audio preamp. In another post of mine I described how to eliminate this issue by cutting the paths in the audio from K3. The RF is so strong due to coupling between the contact pairs inside the relay that after you make the mod to not use the relay to interrupt the audio, you can use the righthand connection to the old R70 as a convenient RF pickoff to look at with a 'scope or a spectrum analyzer!
Larry N2AJX


 

>>If your rig still has the M1 and M2 audio cutoff connections to relay K3, then what you are hearing in your audio is not a transmitter issue, but an RF overload condition from the TX output back into your audio preamp. In another post of mine I described how to eliminate this issue by cutting the paths in the audio from K3.<<

Switching audio in K3 was inviting pain.? I'd advise cutting traces to m1/m2 and and bridging them
pls add the pop fix.