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LED bargraph mWattmeter ......Very useful for a uBITX or BITX40.


 

I'm off looking at a very inexpensive standalone LED bargraph mWattmeter with a 25W to 25mW (30dB) range using the cheap AD8307s, but there are apparently MANY MANY different implementations and desires out there. Might be worth another "Topic" ......hard to tell from this huge list of "Topics" ;o).....heck, here is yet another "Topic". Useful and focussed on the uBITX or BITX40.

Lets try no microcontroller (and firmware) and just a basic LED bargraph display ......first.

Comments ? input ? suggestions ?

73 Kees K5BCQ


 

Let me know when this is available.. may need 3 or 4..
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72 and God bless
KD4EPG


 

Seems that a simple LM3914 bargraph driver coupled with a log detector like the AD8307
might be easier to build than using a micro-controller and writing software.

Arv
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:24 PM <Kd4epg@...> wrote:
Let me know when this is available.. may need 3 or 4..
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72 and God bless
KD4EPG


Jack Purdum
 

I don't know about the hardware, but I wouldn't think the software would be that difficult.

Jack, W8TEE

On Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 2:40:16 PM EDT, Arv Evans <arvid.evans@...> wrote:


Seems that a simple LM3914 bargraph driver coupled with a log detector like the AD8307
might be easier to build than using a micro-controller and writing software.

Arv
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:24 PM <Kd4epg@...> wrote:
Let me know when this is available.. may need 3 or 4..
--
72 and God bless
KD4EPG


 

Take a look at this project for enough good ideas to get you started. Uses the 8307 and the 3914



Years ago I built something similar (not using the 8307)
The 3914 is a ratiometric device, so if you feed in a forward power signal as its reference, and a reflected power signal as the measured quantity you'll get a rudimentary SWR display

N5IB


 

Arv,

You are right on.

Local AQRP position:
I think the benchmark for what is useful?and sells as a kit ought to be the mWattmeter III which is based on our earlier mWattmeter II (88 sold) ......it has a Stockton Bridge, uses a (painstakingly prepared) lookup table......which Ben and I don't want to do again, minimal microcontroller, and 16x2 backlit display. It sells for $41.95?without a case.

The way I see it; you either come up with like function/capability (Nano microcontroller, 16x2 backlit LCD, etc) at 2/3 of that price (~$30) or you come in with less function/capability (LED bargraph, LM3914(s), no microcontroller) at a much lower price (<~$15). Both including an enclosure.

73 Kees K5BCQ


 

Kees

For a wide power range watt-meter it may be necessary to use a digital readout simply due to
more watts being covered.? Digital readout provides finer resolution as long as the measuring
circuit is as accurate as the readout resolution.
For a QRP watt-meter it seems that less readout resolution can be tolerated if we are only
wanting to see if the rig is putting out 0 to 5 watts.? The AD8307 would convert analog input to
log-scale (decibels) and a bar-graph would show rather gross changes in power level.? Also
could have range switching with the bargraph display to cover multiple ranges or multiple
resolutions.

I agree totally that using a real bridge (Stockton, Bourne, or similar) is necessary if we are to
know how much power is going out versus how much is being reflected.? Given the sensitivity
of IRF-510 devices to impedance mismatch, this may be of prime importance.?

From that, there seems to be two directions of discussion, (1) a dummy load and attached
watt-meter, and (2) an in-line bridge and adequate readout for protecting the RF PA from
mismatch.

There is also the issue of most BITX designs not having a low power output mode that can be
used for tune-up purposes. Not sure yet what to do about that situation.

Arv
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:24 PM Kees T <windy10605@...> wrote:
Arv,

You are right on.

Local AQRP position:
I think the benchmark for what is useful?and sells as a kit ought to be the mWattmeter III which is based on our earlier mWattmeter II (88 sold) ......it has a Stockton Bridge, uses a (painstakingly prepared) lookup table......which Ben and I don't want to do again, minimal microcontroller, and 16x2 backlit display. It sells for $41.95?without a case.

The way I see it; you either come up with like function/capability (Nano microcontroller, 16x2 backlit LCD, etc) at 2/3 of that price (~$30) or you come in with less function/capability (LED bargraph, LM3914(s), no microcontroller) at a much lower price (<~$15). Both including an enclosure.

73 Kees K5BCQ