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Sbitx hat


 

Hi to all,?
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Im very interested on to sbitx hat. If anyone have one and is interested to sell, please let me know.?
Thanks!
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Juan WP3DN


 

Are there any plans to make the zBITx available for purchase?


 

Jim,
I have been toying with the idea. It is an ambitious project. Part of the challenge is to reduce the size without throwing out much of what is already a minimal radio.
For instance, the display. We still need a nominal display. The OLED display on the original zbitx was too small. OTH,, the 2.4 inch TFT display will take up too much space.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2024, 4:07 AM Jim via <winickyj=[email protected]> wrote:
Are there any plans to make the zBITx available for purchase?


 

Ashhar,?
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Maybe a 16x2 plus a setup menu similar to the first ubitx plus the web access could be an option.
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Juan


 

Could yo just use the HDMI Out on let the user plug into an existing display/TV/Monitor they provide?
or use the Phone interface and have a 2 line led that enumerates connection name for wifi??


 

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I was thinking wouldn’t it be cool if it was as small as this:


But the case would need to be a little taller to have enough space; and I’m assuming there is an eDP touchscreen around that size. ?I think it’s probably better to use eDP than HDMI or any of the header pins: the flex-cable can get around the pi hat, and hats are usually not stackable (unlike PC/104). ?HDMI cables are too clumsy for integrating the pi and its display into an enclosure, but it’s good to have the option to use it for a secondary display, like I often do with my sbitx.

But are we still talking about a hat with just the codec and oscillators as in the YouTube video, so that another (bigger, home-brew) board would be needed for the rest of the analog circuitry anyway? ?Or are you trying to get the whole radio onto the hat now? ?Or something in between?

On Nov 13, 2024, at 18:02, Jim via groups.io <winickyj@...> wrote:

Could yo just use the HDMI Out on let the user plug into an existing display/TV/Monitor they provide?
or use the Phone interface and have a 2 line led that enumerates connection name for wifi??
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On Nov 13, 2024, at 00:16, Ashhar Farhan via groups.io <farhanbox@...> wrote:

Jim,
I have been toying with the idea. It is an ambitious project. Part of the challenge is to reduce the size without throwing out much of what is already a minimal radio.
For instance, the display. We still need a nominal display. The OLED display on the original zbitx was too small. OTH,, the 2.4 inch TFT display will take up too much space.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2024, 4:07 AM Jim via??<winickyj=[email protected]> wrote:
Are there any plans to make the zBITx available for purchase?


 

How bout support for a nextion screen that way you could have different sizes as needed/wanted, just like hotspots.


 

Hi everyone,?
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Just a reminder. Im still interested on the sbitx hat. If someone have one available please let me know.
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Juan


 

Hi Juan, I have a hat board that Farhan passed out at FDIM. Is this the one you are looking for? If yes, you can have it for free. I believe you are located in Puerto Rico. Please forward me your shipping address and I’ll see what shipping costs are involved.
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Please contact me at hill(dot)allen34@yahoo(dot)com.
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Thanks!


 

Allen,?
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Yes is tbe same board!
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Thanks
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Juan


 

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That case would need to expand a lot in my opinion to accommodate an HF radio, and the goal of putting the entire circuitry on a Pi-Hat seems very aggressive.

That display in that case is connected to the RPi thru the GPIO pins as I recall. Full-size RPi boards have several ways of connecting displays, and if you want a touchscreen that's an added connection that can be carried thru GPIO pins.

If you *could* fit the HF radio into a Pi-Hat, you could build your boards as a pass-thru GPIO, stacking the display on top of the HF board which stacks on top of the RPI as shown in this photo:

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It's based on something referred to as the Hat+ standard, and is most commonly seen with certain PoE boards that can be sandwiched between an RPi and a typical RPi hat.

Once you do that, then you have to figure out power and any display you choose at that size will be lower resolution, limiting you to a very basic interface in my opinion...

If cost were not concern, I suspect something like you describe might be possible, but RF output would likely be very low, the board would rely on expensive surface mount parts to avoid having hand-wound toroids and other large analog components/heatsinks. In short, you'd have to make every design decision based on size and thermal concerns, since your trying to package a fairly complex circuit into a very small package - this case that you linked to is about the size of a pack of cigarettes, to accommodate a 'cost is no issue' design would likely have to either double or triple the volume (size of two or three cigarette packs).

I thought the the zBitx project goal was to simplify the design, reduce the cost - I'd think a better solution would be to outboard the control surface (a phone or tablet running a browser over WiFi, for example) rather than a tiny screen.

And finally, Nextion screens, as a component, are relatively expensive and rather complex, in that they have to be programmed ?with a screen "layout" (I think it's called) which isn't really hard, just added steps and increased costs compared to similar-sized non-Nextion displays.

Ken, N2VIP

On Nov 13, 2024, at 15:41, Shawn Rutledge K7IHZ <social@...> wrote:

I was thinking wouldn’t it be cool if it was as small as this:


But the case would need to be a little taller to have enough space; and I’m assuming there is an eDP touchscreen around that size. ?I think it’s probably better to use eDP than HDMI or any of the header pins: the flex-cable can get around the pi hat, and hats are usually not stackable (unlike PC/104). ?HDMI cables are too clumsy for integrating the pi and its display into an enclosure, but it’s good to have the option to use it for a secondary display, like I often do with my sbitx.

But are we still talking about a hat with just the codec and oscillators as in the YouTube video, so that another (bigger, home-brew) board would be needed for the rest of the analog circuitry anyway? ?Or are you trying to get the whole radio onto the hat now? ?Or something in between?


 

Hi everyone!!!
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I like to thank Allen Hill for the sbitx pi hat. It arrived today. Thanks a lot. You make a ham very happy today.
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Juan


 

Forgot the picture
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Juan, you are very welcome! Good luck with your project.

73
KI4QCK


On Nov 30, 2024, at 1:51?PM, WP3DN via groups.io <3voltios@...> wrote:

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