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Hi to all. I have a DE version. Will I be able to install a V3 board in it? Would it be worth it? Is it a good idea? I've been out of the loop for awhile so I'm way behind. Thanx.
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Dan KD3CEU
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Hi Dan,
The short answer is not without a lot of metalwork.? That would mean it is not worth it to me.??
Currently, HFSignals does not sell kits with just the case and board as they did with the V2 and DE.? That means the best bet today is to order the fully assembled sBitx.? Eventually, the demand for cases may become manageable, and they will offer them separately as they have done.?
You should be able to sell the Raspberry Pi 4b and display them as they are still in short supply.? I am not sure about the value of the DE, as only 150 or so were made.? I have a DE that I am keeping for nostalgia reasons.? I did upgrade it to handle the V3 software except for the SWR/Power sensor.? It works well with the V3 software, about the same (with a little more power output) as the V3 I have.
Above are my opinions.? Others may differ.? You decode/
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Evan
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On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 06:18 PM, Evan Hand wrote:
You should be able to sell the Raspberry Pi 4b and display them as they are still in short supply.?
I think ?suggests otherwise.?? ? -- Regards, Dave, N1AI
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Evan,
???? Thanx for the info. I'll probably stick with the DE since I don't use it all that much. I'll play with it for awhile then lose interest and go back to it. I'll do the software upgrade. Is there hardware that is required for the SWR/Power sensor?
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73 Dan KD3CEU
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Hi Dan,
Yes, there is an ATtiny85 that needs to be added and a Stockton measurement bridge.? When I attempted that addition, I fried the Si5351a on the mainboard and had to replace with an Adafruit Si5351 clone board as the traces were damaged with the IC destruction.? It does not add much value to my current use as I have a dedicated in-line power and SWR meter in my antenna switching network.? I gave up after I worked out how to do it.? It can also add issues with the V3 software: you must modify the code to have the correct LPF selecting logic as the V3 program assumes that if the SWR/Power meter is readable, it is the diode switching LPF selection.? The relays get to clicking a lot if you do not make the change.
I suggest waiting to add the SWR/Power sensor until some of the current V3 code issues are resolved unless you need the readings.
73
Evan
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I'm trying to upgrade to V# software.
error after ./update is "fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git ./update: line 6: ./build: No such file or directory
Any ideas to what it wrong?
Dan KD3CEU
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The developers edition (Presuming it has the upgrades that were issued ) ?is still quite a respectable transceiver and you should be able to sell those. ? They are capable of quite useful CW without relays click clacking
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On Jan 4, 2024, at 18:58, Dave, N1AI <n1ai@...> wrote:
?On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 06:18 PM, Evan Hand wrote:
You should be able to sell the Raspberry Pi 4b and display them as they are still in short supply.?
I think ?suggests otherwise.?? ? -- Regards, Dave, N1AI
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Dan, Here is the link to the original instructions from Farhan: /g/BITX20/message/106058It is a very long topic that you may want to read all of it. I followed the instructions on the first post and got my DE up to V3 software.? The key points are: 1 - Have a working SD before you start the upgrade, and make a backup of it! 2 - Follow the move and copy instructions, as you will need the hw_settings.ini file at the least. 3 - The Git is: I hope this helps. 73 Evan AC9TU
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On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:06 PM, Evan Hand wrote:
Here is the link to the original instructions from Farhan:
/g/BITX20/message/106058
It is a very long topic that you may want to read all of it.
I followed the instructions on the first post and got my DE up to V3 software.? The key points are:
1 - Have a working SD before you start the upgrade, and make a backup of it!
2 - Follow the move and copy instructions, as you will need the hw_settings.ini file at the least.
3 - The Git is:
I agree with all of the above, especially the part about making a good backup before you start.? It is always important to have a way to fall back to a known good point.? Ask me how I know! I would also say it would be ideal if we had one wiki page that talked a person through the software upgrade.? ?You will find the first post of the thread is intentionally cryptic (read it, I think you will agree) and it meanders through some issues that have since been resolved. -- Regards, Dave, N1AI
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On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 08:17 PM, Doc Sarvis wrote:
I'm trying to upgrade to V# software.
error after ./update is "fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git ./update: line 6: ./build: No such file or directory
Any ideas to what it wrong?
Based on these specific outputs, I think you are in the /home/pi directory when you need to be in the /home/pi/sbitx directory. So, issue the command: cd /home/pi/sbitxand try the commands ( presumably from this? link?) again. ? -- Regards, Dave, N1AI
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Thanks for all the help and suggestions.
Yes I ran the update in the /home/pi/sbitx directory. I couldn't get it to update when I was playing with it a few months ago. Maybe that's why I stopped playing with it.
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Dan KD3CEU
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Dave,
???? I turned it on tonight. It boots into CLI and is asking for sbitx login. Any ideas?
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Dan KD3CEU
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Default user is 'pi', password 'hf12345' for the images produced by HF Systems.
I think if you do 'sudo raspi-config' you can tell it to log in automatically.
I'm at a loss why it would boot into CLI.?
Did you download your own image from raspberrypi.com?
If so, there's lots of steps that have to happen to get the radio to work.
See /home/pi/sbitx/install.txt for more info.
Overall it's easier to start with an image they provided and just update the software.
/g/BITX20/message/102427?explains where to get it.
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Dave, N1AI
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On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 08:17 PM, Doc Sarvis wrote:
error after ./update is "fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git ./update: line 6: ./build: No such file or directory
On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 01:17 PM, Doc Sarvis wrote:
Yes I ran the update in the /home/pi/sbitx directory. I couldn't get it to update when I was playing with it a few months ago. Maybe that's why I stopped playing with it.
Ok, revisiting your output, let's examine it using the contents of ./update:  Lines 1-3 do not matter. I forgot line 4 is in there, it does its own 'cd' command, so it doesn't matter where you start.? Sorry, my mistake. Line 5, git pull is what produces the output "fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git?". For some reason, the directory /home/pi/sbitx/.git is not present or has the wrong contents.? I wonder why this could be the case? Line 6, ./build sbitx is what produces the output "./update: line 6: ./build: No such file or directory". For some reason, the file /home/pi/sbitx/build is not present.???I wonder why this could be the case? -- Regards, Dave, N1AI
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It looks like Dan did not do the Git clone command before trying the update.? The instructions in the email link that I sent are as follows:
1. rename the current /home/pi/sbitx as /home/pi/sbitxv2,? ?<===============do not do this again if you have already copied the working v2 sbitx folder
2. clone the git repo from /home/pi, it will create a new subdirectory sbitx with v3
3. build the v3
4. Copy the ini files and? the db3 to their proper place
Step 2 is what appears to be missing or did not complete correctly.
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Evan
AC9TU
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On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 07:08 AM, Evan Hand wrote:
Step 2 is what appears to be missing or did not complete correctly.
Yes, possibly due to the "purposefully skimpy" details for the "alpha" software. If the software is now not "alpha" it would be nice if we had a more detailed set of instructions. Ideally it would handle the different use cases, (a) doing it in-place vs (b) doing it in a newly down-loaded copy of the sbitx code vs (c) who knows... I know the instructions exist in various posts, but it's hard to correlate a given set of instructions with a given use case. ? -- Regards, Dave, N1AI
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Dave,
???? The login password didn't work. I've downloaded the specified file. I'm using the raspberry pi imager. the error i get is
Input file is not a valid disk image. File size 2895668262 is not a multiple of 512 bytes.
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Dan KD3CEU
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On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 07:09 PM, Doc Sarvis wrote:
Input file is not a valid disk image. File size 2895668262 is not a multiple of 512 bytes.
The instructions in that linked post say "The image is zipped up to save download time, unzip it with your compression utility", were you able to do this? I *think* if you rename the file to have a .zip extension then maybe the Pi imager will understand what it is. I almost always use Balena Etcher to write sdcards, it's pretty smart when it comes to figuring this stuff out. Therefore I don't really know what Pi imager can do. ? -- Regards, Dave, N1AI
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Hmm,??says:
Imager supports images packaged in the?.img?format as well as container formats like?.zip.
So the problem is not that the image is a zip file.
Reading the full thread?/g/BITX20/topic/98987974#102427?I find:
And I just successfully installed the default pi image with no problem.? ?For your image, I used the "other" image menu and selected the file that was extracted from the RAR file that you posted.? Your file had no extension so I added a . IMG extension to the end so it would find it.
So it seems that Pi Imager doesn't understand that it is in RAR format (a different "zip" program's format).?
As above maybe renaming it with .IMG extension might let Pi Imager understand what format the file is in?
Yet this quote says the author extracted the file from the RAR image (presumably using WinRAR ???).
Also it says people are mostly having success using 64 GB sdcards, the image seems to be a tiny bit too big for a 32 GB card.
Sorry, I didn't realize what a mess this was, but I don't think there is another image from Farhan or HF Signals out there.
I hope someone tells us otherwise.
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Dave, N1AI
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Dave, N1AI