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Re: Calibration
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Wow, that's great!? Very much appreciated by those of us who are trying to learn several things at the same time - this really clarifies it.
Thank you! +jeff AJ6IY |
Re: uBITX full design
I agree with Curt.
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A good student project would be to get the uBitx, and then try to improve it somehow. Lots of fodder in this forum if looking for ideas of what to do. Jerry On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 03:27 PM, Curt wrote:
Jerry gave a nice description of the board.? An EE named Allison has separately commented on optimizing the PA portion - and she went out and designed a better PA layout assisting Hans Summers at QRP-Labs (they currently offer this PA kit over there).? Years ago a prof somewhere got his students to build a QRP rig, Norcal 40A maybe.? I see you already built a McHF so I don't see a lot of upside to you building your own ubitx from scratch.? likely you have already dug into the nifty synthesizer components that are a key piece of modern QRP likes ubitx and QCX.? |
Re: uBITX full design
Jonathan
now after reading your QRZ listing I see you are a student, not working on a faculty project idea, but a personal project for your program there.? as Jerry mentioned, the full component BOM is available.? even if they shipped you a board, still not a worthy student project to assemble a ubitx.? there are some things that could be expanded, like adding VHF capability (the existing 45 MHz may not be so good).? I have a paper where KK7B (a prof) has related HF layout to microwave MMIC chip design.? so some analogous learning is indeed possible.? Jerry gave a nice description of the board.? An EE named Allison has separately commented on optimizing the PA portion - and she went out and designed a better PA layout assisting Hans Summers at QRP-Labs (they currently offer this PA kit over there).? Years ago a prof somewhere got his students to build a QRP rig, Norcal 40A maybe.? I see you already built a McHF so I don't see a lot of upside to you building your own ubitx from scratch.? likely you have already dug into the nifty synthesizer components that are a key piece of modern QRP likes ubitx and QCX.? best wishes in your study and remaining time at that nice (rather Hokie) venue. Curt |
Re: uBITX full design
Jonathan,
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A search on the web and on ebay for "ssb transceiver kit" gives a few kits that require more assembly than a uBitx, but none that I am familiar with. Perhaps the Klopik out of Russia, if wanting a challenge? ? ?? ? ?? Some of the ebay kits come with no power amp, no low pass filters, no vfo, ... And some just plain don't work. Farhan encourages others to produce his designs and sell them. There have been several Bitx20 kits, and even multiband versions of it. But I'm not seeing any just now, the uBitx is very competitive. QRP-Labs has the successful QCX transceiver, but it is single band, and for CW, not SSB. QRP-Labs is planning to someday release the very promising QSX all-HF SSB transceiver,? that might be worth waiting for.? ?? If what you really want is a uBitx where you install all the surface mount parts yourself on a known-to-work PCB, your best bet might be to buy one from hfsignals and take a heatgun to it. Jerry, KE7ER On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 12:32 PM, Jerry Gaffke wrote: Perhaps just build "ugly style" or "Manhatten style" on copper clad circuit board, |
Re: Calibration
#calibration
Adrien F4IJA
Please check here
For now it's just about frequency calibration but it's a work in progress for a method for bfo in some days or weeks.? - 73's Adrien F4IJA |
Re: Collection of knowledge about CEC firmware?
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Thanks to all who responded - I hope I didn't come off as complaining.? This is a fantastic little radio (which I'm looking forward to tinkering with, as microcontroller stuff is right up my alley!), and the amount of stuff which folks have gotten it to do is nothing short of mindblowing!? I feel like I should have bought two, though, as I'm much bolder about my experimentation when a? mistake isn't likely to shut me down for a few weeks.? :) :) :)? This hobby is mostly about tinkering for me;? I don't own any other HF radios capable of transmitting (well, except this 20-meter QCX kit which I'm still in the process of troubleshooting...) so until I get this unit up and running I'm going to be off the air.??
I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something; I've definitely had the experience in the electronics world of struggling over weeks and months to learn something only to discover I'd been Googling wrong.? :) :) :) |
Re: uBITX full design
Jonathan
Contact Farhan direct to explore what's possible. it might be possible to get boards assembled without toroids and the larger parts installed. I imagine the board is the primary IP to preserve the work for folk in India. Perhaps the effort can expose the students also to manufacturing by some video perhaps. I am confident Farhan will share some fine details with the students on PA circuitry, filters and isolation. Great to see your interest. Curt wb8yyy rf engineer |
Re: uBITX full design
Jonathan, You will need some way to sniff and measure RF, an Antuino would be ideal, |
Re: Collection of knowledge about CEC firmware?
#firmware
You have the K8CEC website itself anf the github repo with sufficient documentation. Additonally, offers a more narrational form of documentation. F On Sun 22 Sep, 2019, 8:53 PM Ted via Groups.Io, <k3rta=[email protected]> wrote: Yes, direct langage toward setting parameters for WSPR mode in TX would be fantasmic.? I'm home on surgical recovery and will be restricted to brain exercise only ( as opposed to tower reconstruction)? and so now's a good time to play with it. |
uBITX full design
Hi,
I am trying to see if I can do a full assembly of the uBITX, that is, I want to start with a BARE PCB and hand solder on the SMD components.? I was wondering if the KiCAD files were available or perhaps a BOM so I know what type of transformers are being used. I am planning on using it in a school project, so that's why I am asking. I am more than happy to reverse engineer the PCBs if need be. Also, I was wondering if there was anything particular I would need to know about the trace layout for the boards. Is there a ground plane on the bottom layer with the other traces on the top? (I couldn't find pics of the bottom side so I wasn't sure) Any help would be much appreciated! 73, -Jonathan Kayne, KM4CFT Virginia Tech Electrical Engineering (RF and Microwave Concentration) Virginia Tech ARA Vice President |
Re: Collection of knowledge about CEC firmware?
#firmware
Jeff -- the doc is "distributed".? Meaning it is a wild wild West situation. Google search seems the only (poor) tool to identify CEC-related? doc, vids, discussions. But others know better and someone is always able to say...oh that file is here in location XYZ, obviously.?
I took the MM displayed values as exactly reflecting current config parameters.? While simple, having a semi-gui interface to uBITX parameters is heavenly. To be able to read,c? write, reboot, observe/play, then repeat as necessary, was a revelation. On WSPR, you might want to read up on the WSJTX doc describing the WSJTX freq calibration procedures.? These process within wsjtx are the most wicked clever bits of code/processes i've ever encountered. Yes, I don't get out much. Hahah.? The CEC software essentially implements a short hand version of the same process in WSJTX. So, if you understand how WSJTX does it, you will be most likely be able to figure out how CEC does it.? Don Km4udx |
Re: Collection of knowledge about CEC firmware?
#firmware
Yes, direct langage toward setting parameters for WSPR mode in TX would be fantasmic.? I'm home on surgical recovery and will be restricted to brain exercise only ( as opposed to tower reconstruction)? and so now's a good time to play with it.
-ted |
Re: WTB 680nF Inductors
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Mark - N7EKU
Hi,
Not to complicate matters, but in old posts I've seen two different inductors being discussed:? 680nH ones on a filter, and 680uH ones placed on the relays.? Has anyone tested either of those strategies to show measured reductions in the problem spurs on SSB in the higher frequency bands?? I also recall others saying that the 680nH filter inductors were causing fairly significant power reduction on 40m -- was this always the case or has the modification worked for some and not for others (depending on what)? 73, Mark. |
Re: WTB 680nF Inductors
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Raj, l don't want to have to buy 100 off eBay, so that's why I am looking to find the parts on the group.? Regards, Dale On Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 2:08 AM Raj vu2zap <rajendrakumargg@...> wrote:
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Re: WTB 680nF Inductors
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I've tried similar ones and they DONT work. The issue with the original
toroids is that
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their leads seem to pick up TX signal and cause a mess. Change the relays and you are almost there. Use SHIELDED smd insuctors and you will get reduction in spurs. Any old inductor there wont do. If the 680nh does not help then you have the wrong type. Raj At 21-09-19, you wrote: I bought these, and reasonably-shipped: |
Re: Contrary Raduino
It looks like your potentiometer doesnt have a +5v connected. Can you confirm that the pot's center pin changes voltage smoothly between 0 to 5v as you tune it? - f On Sat 21 Sep, 2019, 10:07 PM JD Hill, <w9jdh.qrp@...> wrote:
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Re: Calibration
#calibration
Adrien, thank you for this excellent information. I will be downloading V 1.2 or higher firmware and use your method for calibration. Should have my programming cable for the nano by end of next week.
TNX FER THE HELP 73 Dave, N8KZ |
Collection of knowledge about CEC firmware?
#firmware
I have a v5 ?BITX that I've been fiddling around with for a while, and it looks like just about all the stuff I'm interested in being able to do with it will be better-enabled with the CEC firmware.? So, I got v1.200 and built it (I still have the stock parallel display) because I could not for the life of me make any of the hex loaders work - but was able to build and load it using the Arduino IDE. |
Re: Calibration
#calibration
Thank you for saving this old dog from barking up the wrong tree. I will down load V 1.2, Big help thanks again...
I have a dummy load and a good comm receiver to check the ubitx tx with. The TX and RX are working but the BFO adjustment for clear audio is very bad. cw works very nice and clear! OK big help CUL 73 Dave N8KZ |
Re: WTB 680nF Inductors
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MadRadioModder, that would be too easy.? I am not an electronics expert, only a builder and tinkerer.? I will learn more from modding the V3 than I will ever learn from assembling the V5.? Just my thing, I guess.? I just enjoy the build.? Funny comment, though.? Dale On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 6:09 PM MadRadioModder <madradiomodder@...> wrote:
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Dale Hardin, KS4NS Elberta, AL |