What board is this?
Gerry. VE4GKS
Sent by the Thunderbird
|
|
|
2 board here as well, Thank you.
|
Re: Cw Finals seem very warm and power output lower
A one inch fan moves enough air over those heat sinks, anything bigger is a waste as the air just bypasses the sinks.At work, we cool a lot more than those puny heat sinks with one 1 inch fan . There isn't that much heat to be removed. If one is really that concerned especially for digital modes replace the transistors with one that can be directly grounded and use a heat sink / copper spreader arrangement. I don't like using insulators under those transistors since if the heat sink is grounded you end up with added capacitance that will reduce the output power at the higher frequencies even more.
|
Please put me on the list, too.
Steve?
KB1PSU
|
Re: Cw Finals seem very warm and power output lower
A 1 inch fan wouldn't move much air.? Try something a little
bigger.
73
VE4GKS
Sent by the Thunderbird
On 2021-04-24 10:19 a.m., John Cunliffe
W7ZQ wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
A small 1inch fan might be all you need. You can slow it down to a
point where it doesn't makes irritating noise since all you need
is a slight breeze not a hurricane.?
|
Re: Cw Finals seem very warm and power output lower
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 10:17 AM, Mark - N7EKU wrote:
Doesn't FT8 depend on your audio level settings?
Mark, You are correct.?? Chuck, Do you have a power meter to see if there is a significant power difference?? That could help explain what is happening.? If nothing else measure the peak voltage on the dummy load.? We are only looking for relative readings, not accurate. The other variable is how long are you holding the key down when testing CW. 73 Evan AC9TU
|
Re: Cw Finals seem very warm and power output lower
A small 1inch fan might be all you need. You can slow it down to a point where it doesn't makes irritating noise since all you need is a slight breeze not a hurricane.?
|
Re: Cw Finals seem very warm and power output lower
Doesn't FT8 depend on your audio level settings?
|
Re: HF newbie. Propagation questions - with pix!
Oops! Too many forums, LOL.
73,
Robert, AG6LK
|
Re: Cw Finals seem very warm and power output lower
Chuck
Reminds me of discovering the hot regulator on the arguing board thinking I had damaged it.?
As Bill suggests, 15 seconds of ft8 twice a minute is more punishing than cw or ssb. While some may adopt bigger heating, a little fan would help. Funny thing these transistors are robust, over voltage from very bad swr might get them before heat.?
73 Curt
|
I know it's not so easy for some to order items from the USA as it is not always easy to simply order up something from overseas, HF Signals and the V6 being an exception. Radiodity is also an exception since, perhaps, they also use DHL...
Thanks again.
Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Friday, April 23, 2021, 5:30:37 PM EDT, David Lacey via groups.io <g4jbe@...> wrote:
Good evening Bob
Thanks for the reply, like you items of interest are filed for
future ref. Other mails of no
interest (MPJA in this instance) are simply deleted. Frankly nothing
is simpler ?
Life is for living...no time to get embroiled in things that don`t
matter.
BITX, thanks to Ashar and his fine work force, one of the nice
things on the market.
Regards
Dave
G4JBE
On 23/04/2021 22:16, Bob Lunsford via
groups.io wrote:
Hello Dave:
I have a simpler solution: I
have a BITX folder and anything that does not interest me or
relate to my interests gets moved to that folder unread. That
way, should I ever want/need to read them, they are available.
I do this all the time. No time wasted. In fact, a lot of good
QRP sets are designed and sold by British hams and such items
interest me greatly. I am not so much about improving my V6 as
keeping it operational since the V6 is fulfilling my
expectations nicely.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Friday, April 23, 2021, 1:47:08 PM EDT, David Lacey via
groups.io <g4jbe@...> wrote:
Do you guys really have to get so bitchy
about such a trivial matter ???
You seem to forget this is NOT just an American oriented
group there are
many others from outside the States who have no clue
whatever who MPJA are
they just hit the delete button and say
nothing........surely those who
don`t like the
mails can do the same.
Dave
G4JBE?? ... UK
>
|
Good evening Bob
Thanks for the reply, like you items of interest are filed for
future ref. Other mails of no
interest (MPJA in this instance) are simply deleted. Frankly nothing
is simpler ?
Life is for living...no time to get embroiled in things that don`t
matter.
BITX, thanks to Ashar and his fine work force, one of the nice
things on the market.
Regards
Dave
G4JBE
On 23/04/2021 22:16, Bob Lunsford via
groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hello Dave:
I have a simpler solution: I
have a BITX folder and anything that does not interest me or
relate to my interests gets moved to that folder unread. That
way, should I ever want/need to read them, they are available.
I do this all the time. No time wasted. In fact, a lot of good
QRP sets are designed and sold by British hams and such items
interest me greatly. I am not so much about improving my V6 as
keeping it operational since the V6 is fulfilling my
expectations nicely.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Friday, April 23, 2021, 1:47:08 PM EDT, David Lacey via
groups.io <g4jbe@...> wrote:
Do you guys really have to get so bitchy
about such a trivial matter ???
You seem to forget this is NOT just an American oriented
group there are
many others from outside the States who have no clue
whatever who MPJA are
they just hit the delete button and say
nothing........surely those who
don`t like the
mails can do the same.
Dave
G4JBE?? ... UK
>
|
On Friday, April 23, 2021, 3:24:23 PM EDT, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote:
I was going to say that if you stopped posting them, I'd start!
Vince - K8ZW.
On 04/23/2021 12:52 PM, Bob Lunsford via groups.io wrote: > If they say MPJA in the subject line with no RE: in front, they need to > hit DELETE or buy a new keyboard, if not willing to admit they are not > computer-savvy. It's like some who see all upper case and call it > shouting when the writer may just have a vision problem. Some are merely > short-sighted... > > 1-1/2 negative and the rest positive comments ... and I was prepared to > leave the group? > > Bob ¡ª KK5R > > On Friday, April 23, 2021, 12:43:31 PM EDT, John Cunliffe W7ZQ > < n2nep@...> wrote: > > > I enjoy those links, keep them coming. If some people don't know how to > set up filters in their e-mail that should not keep you from posting them. > -- ? K8ZW? ?
|
Hello Dave:
I have a simpler solution: I have a BITX folder and anything that does not interest me or relate to my interests gets moved to that folder unread. That way, should I ever want/need to read them, they are available. I do this all the time. No time wasted. In fact, a lot of good QRP sets are designed and sold by British hams and such items interest me greatly. I am not so much about improving my V6 as keeping it operational since the V6 is fulfilling my expectations nicely.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Friday, April 23, 2021, 1:47:08 PM EDT, David Lacey via groups.io <g4jbe@...> wrote:
Do you guys really have to get so bitchy about such a trivial matter ??? You seem to forget this is NOT just an American oriented group there are many others from outside the States who have no clue whatever who MPJA are they just hit the delete button and say nothing........surely those who don`t like the mails can do the same. Dave G4JBE?? ... UK
>
|
Jack and others,
I have a actual Raduino replacement kit available for the V6 that is designed specifically for the Teensy 4.1 and uses your original display. ?The teensy 4.1 plugs into the back side upside down similar to the way the nano does on the original. ?Details are on the Triumirate Skonk Works (TSW) website, www.w0eb.com though you have to email me for ordering details.
We also make an adapter kit that allows the earlier, smaller, Teensy 4.0 to plug into the NANO socket on an original V6 Raduino.
Jim Sheldon, W0EB
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Apr 23, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Jack, W8TEE via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:
?
I don't think you'll find one that's an exact match. I think Jim Sheldon, W0EB, made some kind of PCB that allowed a Teensy to plug into a Nano socket, but I'm not sure.
Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, April 23, 2021, 2:02:10 PM EDT, jerry@... <jerry@...> wrote:
Thanks Jack, ? ? I suppose I should have been more specific - a more powerful board that would fit in the same form factor and at least more or less plug in.? Although amazing things can be done with little green jumper wires :). ? ? I actually have a couple of ESP32 WROOM cards right here on the desk. ? Thanks for the table. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jerry KF6VB On 2021-04-23 09:13, Jack, W8TEE via groups.io wrote: > Jerry: > > Almost any other microcontroller will have more of everything: flash, > SRAM, and clock. This is true for the STM32, ESP32, and Teensy. All > are programmable in the Arduino IDE after installing the proper > software patch for the IDE. The table below is from _Beginning C for > Microcontrollers_ and gives you some idea of the resource > > RESOURCES > > ARDUINO NANO > > ARDUINO > > MEGA 2560 PRO MINI > > TEENSY 4.06 > > BLUE PILL > > (STM32F103) > > ESP32 NODEMCU WROOM 327 > > Processor bits > > 8 > > 8 > > 32 > > 32 > > 32 > > Flash1 (bytes) > > 32K > > 256K > > 2048K > > 64K - 128K > > 1.3M5 > > SRAM (bytes) > > 2K > > 8K > > 1024K > > 20K > > 380K5 > > EEPROM (bytes) > > 1K > > 4K > > 64K2 > > ?3 > > ?3 > > Processor Clock Speed > > 16MHz > > 16MHz > > 600MHz > > 72MHz > > 240MHz4 > > I/O pins > > 14 > > 54 > > 40 > > 26 > > 25 > > Interrupts > > All 14 mappable, 2 external > > 6 > > All digital pins > > All 26 mappable > > All 25 mappable > > Timers > > 3 (2 8-bit, 1 16-bit) > > 6 > > 16 > > 14 > > 4 > > SPI > > 1 > > 1 > > 3 > > 1 > > 2 > > I2C > > 1 > > 1 > > 3 > > 1 > > 2 > > DAC resolution (bits) > > 10 > > 10 > > 12 > > 12 > > 12 > > Analog pins > > 8 > > 16 > > 14 > > 5 > > 15 > > Price > > $3 > > $8 > > $20 > > $5 > > $10 > > base available for each. > > Jack, W8TEE > >? On Friday, April 23, 2021, 11:54:24 AM EDT, jerry@...> < jerry@...> wrote: > > Hello! > >? I downloaded the ubitx source code off github, and successfully > compiled and uploaded it to the radio.? As a > "Hello World" experiment, I changed "LSB" to "PSB" on the display. > Then > changed it back. :) > >? The Nano seems to be pretty maxed out.? 93% of program ROM used. > Are > there any more powerful boards available out there?? More rom, faster > clock? > >? Screen update is pretty slow.? The rig would be more pleasant if it > was faster, especially the frequency display. > Anybody know what's the bottleneck? > >? Are there any unused I/O pins on the Nano?? Such could be used to do > a > bit of profiling - you output pulses at > strategic spots in the code, and watch them with a scope. > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jerry KF6VB > > -- > Jack, W8TEE > > > Links: > ------ > [1] /g/BITX20/message/87862> [2] /mt/82314369/243852> [3] /g/BITX20/post> [4] /g/BITX20/editsub/243852> [5] /g/BITX20/leave/10189903/243852/952924773/xyzzy
-- Jack, W8TEE
|
Re: Cw Finals seem very warm and power output lower
Hi Chuck,
I doubt you have smoked anything if it is still trying to work (did I miss something?). I would expect a difference in 'feels like' temperature at the finals heat sink just from changing the mode between SSB and CW. The duty cycles are different and could easily be less on SSB voice. The finals WILL get warm. Installing a larger heat sink might make that a little less warm but by fingertip you might not be able to tell.
You are suggesting that you may not have the bias set correctly. In the past I have worked on some of these for other hams, setting up the bias, calibrating, and setting the BFO. They sent me the radio, I did the work, sent it back working. They didn't learn much more than my mailing address. I am still willing to do that mail thing..
???? *BUT*
It might be more helpful to use something like facetime (Apple) or Zoom etc, to try and help. Would you accept an offer of that kind of help? You would be able to learn a lot more than my mailing address. It will require more effort than using USPS as described above but seems like it would be worthwhile.
What do you have for test/measurement gear? If you want me to try this (or not) we should move this to private email. If you can't sort my email address from the list defaults? it is:
wrcromwell@...
73,
Bill? KU8H
bark less - wag more
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 4/23/21 2:58 PM, Chuck Eglhaut wrote: ?Max
I did have it connect to a dummy load after I noticed the heat building and it seems
just as warm running it on the dummy load.
I am not a electrical handy person.
Where do you measure the current at what point?
I was looking at hfsignals website and seen the write up on MBIT TUNEUP
They talked there about PA BIAS and the measured the current draw at the power supply. I wasnt sure about all that.
then the second step they align the master clock and the proceed setting the BFO.
I am reading that and know I got over my head.
I have update firmware and added new screen pictured below.
Hoping I haven't smoked any parts.
Chuck
|
I was going to say that if you stopped posting them, I'd start!
Vince - K8ZW.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 04/23/2021 12:52 PM, Bob Lunsford via groups.io wrote: If they say MPJA in the subject line with no RE: in front, they need to
hit DELETE or buy a new keyboard, if not willing to admit they are not
computer-savvy. It's like some who see all upper case and call it
shouting when the writer may just have a vision problem. Some are merely
short-sighted...
1-1/2 negative and the rest positive comments ... and I was prepared to
leave the group?
Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Friday, April 23, 2021, 12:43:31 PM EDT, John Cunliffe W7ZQ
<n2nep@...> wrote:
I enjoy those links, keep them coming. If some people don't know how to
set up filters in their e-mail that should not keep you from posting them.
--
K8ZW
|
Re: Cw Finals seem very warm and power output lower
?Max I did have it connect to a dummy load after I noticed the heat building and it seems
just as warm running it on the dummy load. I am not a electrical handy person. Where do you measure the current at what point? I was looking at hfsignals website and seen the write up on MBIT TUNEUP They talked there about PA BIAS and the measured the current draw at the power supply. I wasnt sure about all that.
then the second step they align the master clock and the proceed setting the BFO.
I am reading that and know I got over my head. I have update firmware and added new screen pictured below. Hoping I haven't smoked any parts. Chuck
|
On Friday, April 23, 2021, 2:22:40 PM EDT, Jack, W8TEE via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:
I don't think you'll find one that's an exact match. I think Jim Sheldon, W0EB, made some kind of PCB that allowed a Teensy to plug into a Nano socket, but I'm not sure.
Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, April 23, 2021, 2:02:10 PM EDT, jerry@... <jerry@...> wrote:
Thanks Jack,
? ? I suppose I should have been more specific - a more powerful board
that
would fit in the same form factor and at least more or less plug in.?
Although
amazing things can be done with little green jumper wires :).
? ? I actually have a couple of ESP32 WROOM cards right here on the desk.
? Thanks
for the table.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jerry KF6VB
On 2021-04-23 09:13, Jack, W8TEE via groups.io wrote: > Jerry: > > Almost any other microcontroller will have more of everything: flash, > SRAM, and clock. This is true for the STM32, ESP32, and Teensy. All > are programmable in the Arduino IDE after installing the proper > software patch for the IDE. The table below is from _Beginning C for > Microcontrollers_ and gives you some idea of the resource > > RESOURCES > > ARDUINO NANO > > ARDUINO > > MEGA 2560 PRO MINI > > TEENSY 4.06 > > BLUE PILL > > (STM32F103) > > ESP32 NODEMCU WROOM 327 > > Processor bits > > 8 > > 8 > > 32 > > 32 > > 32 > > Flash1 (bytes) > > 32K > > 256K > > 2048K > > 64K - 128K > > 1.3M5 > > SRAM (bytes) > > 2K > > 8K > > 1024K > > 20K > > 380K5 > > EEPROM (bytes) > > 1K > > 4K > > 64K2 > > ?3 > > ?3 > > Processor Clock Speed > > 16MHz > > 16MHz > > 600MHz > > 72MHz > > 240MHz4 > > I/O pins > > 14 > > 54 > > 40 > > 26 > > 25 > > Interrupts > > All 14 mappable, 2 external > > 6 > > All digital pins > > All 26 mappable > > All 25 mappable > > Timers > > 3 (2 8-bit, 1 16-bit) > > 6 > > 16 > > 14 > > 4 > > SPI > > 1 > > 1 > > 3 > > 1 > > 2 > > I2C > > 1 > > 1 > > 3 > > 1 > > 2 > > DAC resolution (bits) > > 10 > > 10 > > 12 > > 12 > > 12 > > Analog pins > > 8 > > 16 > > 14 > > 5 > > 15 > > Price > > $3 > > $8 > > $20 > > $5 > > $10 > > base available for each. > > Jack, W8TEE > >? On Friday, April 23, 2021, 11:54:24 AM EDT, jerry@...> < jerry@...> wrote: > > Hello! > >? I downloaded the ubitx source code off github, and successfully > compiled and uploaded it to the radio.? As a > "Hello World" experiment, I changed "LSB" to "PSB" on the display. > Then > changed it back. :) > >? The Nano seems to be pretty maxed out.? 93% of program ROM used. > Are > there any more powerful boards available out there?? More rom, faster > clock? > >? Screen update is pretty slow.? The rig would be more pleasant if it > was faster, especially the frequency display. > Anybody know what's the bottleneck? > >? Are there any unused I/O pins on the Nano?? Such could be used to do > a > bit of profiling - you output pulses at > strategic spots in the code, and watch them with a scope. > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jerry KF6VB > > -- > Jack, W8TEE > > > Links: > ------ > [1] /g/BITX20/message/87862> [2] /mt/82314369/243852> [3] /g/BITX20/post> [4] /g/BITX20/editsub/243852> [5] /g/BITX20/leave/10189903/243852/952924773/xyzzy
--
Jack, W8TEE
-- Jack, W8TEE
|
N5NTT
Bob Lunsford
Jim Sheldon
