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Re: rotary encoder
?I bought a bunch of the plain switches, with the threaded shaft casing, plus nuts and washers. ?Also bought 2 or 3 mounted on boards with resistors where called for. ?I figure to replace the pot with them, just need to get the coding set for that. ?It is a good idea to test some of these things. ?I bought two ten turn pots, plus have one that came with a BITX20 parts kit for the boards that Sunil sells. ?And, it turns out that one of the pots I bought is bad. No connection between any of the 3 connectors, period. ?Now I don't know who i bought it from. ?I'll take note of how to test the switches.. ?Wayne WA2YNE ?still trying in West Texas. |
Re: CW operation on microBITX
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Be sure the key contacts are very clean. My key will fail to operate the uBitx in CW mode if there is least imperfection. I installed the CEC software and that improved. It also has other features for CW that make it worthwhile. It is so easy to install that even *I* can do it. I suspect that CW operation is an afterthought of the designers. Maybe not. I was wrong one time before ;) 73, Bill KU8H On 1/18/19 2:24 PM, geoffg3wzp@... wrote:
Hi ...why cant I get the tx/rx working on CW ????? I use the 4k7 pull up resistor as per drwg but when I press key the tx sends? R then back to receive ....if I leave the 4k7 out the tx goes into transmit sending R then flips back into rx and then tx again ...help ! --
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Re: AGC and FT8
Vince Vielhaber
On my yaesu I always set AGC to FAST for digital modes, AUTO for SSB.
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Vince - K8ZW. On 01/18/2019 05:41 AM, Daimon Tilley wrote:
I have the ND6T / K5BCQ AGC kit to build and install and use my rig --
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Re: rotary encoder
It is possible to test the mechanical switch type rotary encoders by using a pair of resistors and LEDs to show the outputs as the knob is turned slowly.? Connect a 1500 ohm resistor from +5 to the LED and the LED cathode to an encoder output.? If you use two resistors and two LEDs you can see the quadrature output states.? Arv _._ On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 9:33 AM Keith VE7GDH <ve7gdh@...> wrote: A friend thinks he has a problem with the rotary encoder in his uBITX. |
Re: rotary encoder
Non-operation?? I would check the wiring and integrity of solder connection.? If he is using Sunil's case and I/O circuit board - the latter is notorious for solder bridges.?
If encoder is not tuning smoothly - skipping frequencies with too big jumps - this strikes me as a bad encoder.? Of course obtaining a spare can aid debug.? Curt |
Re: rotary encoder
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI got 5 of these lately.? I used them with some code from the internet to change frequency on a RaduinoX. Be sure to get the "Nuts" version shipped with the nuts! These had serrated shafts and detents. Mike, WA6ISP
On 1/18/2019 8:33 AM, Keith VE7GDH
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A friend thinks he has a problem with the rotary encoder in his uBITX. Does anyone have the part number for it? -- Mike Hagen, WA6ISP 10917 Bryant Street Yucaipa, Ca. 92399 (909) 918-0058 PayPal ID "MotDog@..." Mike@... |
Re: AGC and FT8
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Re: AGC and FT8
Hi Daimon, I would suggest that you switch it out. With FT8 you will have several signals present within the pass band, some quite strong, others below the noise. Any strong signals that reduce your gain might push those weak signals (the interesting ones) down so low that they cannot be decoded. Just switch the AGC bias ( J1 on the kit, Q3 gate on home-brew version) to ground to disable it for your digital use. 73, Don
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AGC and FT8
I have the ND6T / K5BCQ AGC kit to build and install and use my rig mainly for portable FT8 with a built in Raspberry Pi, with only occasional SSB use.
I don¡¯t need the AGC for FT8, but if I install it, has anyone experienced negative impact on decodes? I am thinking that if I set the jumpers to ¡°short¡± (fast?) the. I might be OK, or should I have a switch to switch it in and out when using different modes? thanks. Daimon. G4USI. |
Re: Unexpected measurements
jim
Have not seen this -exactly- but ..all my testing was in ssb mode DK7IH has a simple two-tone? test oscillator (copied below)? I add? 2 switches to turn off each oscillator (to test for maximum warp) ...Tho he calls it a wien bridge, its really a phase-shift oscillator ...inject into mike input Jim
On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 6:04:52 PM PST, Evan Hand <elhandjr@...> wrote:
I did some testing on my v4 board and found interesting correlation (though not able to verify mathematical accuracy): At this point I will be going back and coming up with a better way to inject a 1 or 2 tone audio signal into the uBitx to then measure the harmonics.?? Has anyone else seen this type of behavior? 73 Evan AC9TU |
Hi Josh,
Very good points. I've been worrying a bit about the 120Mhz DAC, termination and signal length matching, especially as the DAC would most likely be connected through the mini PCI connector on the Arduino Vidor board. It may be possible to do without oversampling. Oversampling should provide an easier to clean up with the existing low pass filter signal. But, no oversampling may be OK. The tradeoff for oversampling vs more depth, on receive, could indeed be better with more depth. As nearby strong signals (such as a field day situation) could be in the bandpass of the roofing filter.? Tom, wb6b |
Hello Tom, I think that's a very interesting idea - a couple of thoughts that might be useful (or not) - you may already be well aware of these: 1) 120MHz signaling can be hard to wire, especially in wide parallel buses - this may be difficult to wire without signal integrity errors, unless you're laying out a board for the task.? 12-bit sampling just increases the number of lines you're trying to keep synchronized.? Modern FPGAs shouldn't have an issue running I/O at 120MHz, but you will probably need terminated signal paths and matched cable lengths to ensure data transport 2) Your dynamic range will be limited by the 10- or 12-bit sample depth; oversampling can help, but it might be more effective to get a 14- or 16-bit ADC at a slower clock rate than to oversample at a lower depth.? It's been a while since I've looked at the math; I'm sure several people on the list are smarter than me about this!? If you incorporate AGC, this should help considerably (but close-in signals will still affect your dynamic range, obviously).? I might even consider sub-sampling, although I don't know if you can get ADCs (significantly better than 16-bit, for reasonable cost) that would support 12MHz sub-sampling... Very, very interesting - I've been thinking about building just such a configuration (at least single-conversion, and then sampling at an HF IF with a fast ADC) for a while, but I'm not really a hardware guy - and I would feel compelled to lay out the ADC and FPGA portion, at minimum, and sounds tedious.? I've seen high-speed FPGA designs, and I know that I'm not competent to lay them out :-) Anyway, good luck - I'd love to hear about the project, if you proceed! Josh, KB8NYP On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:11 PM Tom, wb6b <wb6b@...> wrote:
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Hi, ? I just received a Arduino MKR Vidor board. It is a higher powered Arduino with a medium sized FPGA included on the board.? ? My thought was to add a fairly fast (around 120Mhz to allow oversampling) 10 or 12 bit DAC to supply the transmit signal directly to the low pass filter at Test Point 1. And use a 50Mhz 12 bit ADC (again to allow oversampling) for receive picking up the signal at test point 17.? ? For receive this should be better than trying to push the ADC close to the antenna, as the digital receiver will then have a fairly cleaned up signal to work with and the signal frequency (12Mhz) is fairly moderate. In fact, if the frequency could be mixed down even lower, it might be possible to use fairly low speed ADCs. ? Another advantage of the band pass filtering ahead of the ADC for receive is there should be no need for quadrature (I/Q) mixers, and dual ADCs, as the digital processing will not need to determine which signal frequencies are above and below the center frequency. (Internally, for SSB demodulation, depending on method, there could be I/Q processing. But that can all be handled in the FPGA).? ? So the uBITX could be a really good starting point for the RF parts of a FPGA SDR transceiver. It's possible the specs for the ADC and DAC chips could be toned down a bit and reduce the costs further.? ? Here are a couple of possible designs that could be used as a starting point. ? Tom, wb6b ? |
Re: Cooling fan Shroud
I choose to run the fan full time. The reason I run the fan while receiving is that it pulls heat out of the small heat sinks.
On my original ubitx, I run the finals at 20 volts and use it for digital. The heatsinks that I use on that radio weigh about 4x as much with a lot more finning. The fan is a regular 3" computer fan with a snug fitting shroud. I can run the transmitter at 20 watts into a dummy load in cw mode for an indefinite amount of time without making the transistors hot. This set up is not as effective but it pull heat out of the heatsinks. I may well use larger heatsinks and design a different fan shroud. Not planning on running a temp controlled fan nor just run it whilst the tx is on. |
Re: Cooling fan Shroud
The power to the transmit wire is always connected so
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there would have to be a relay to only apply power to the relay when the PTT line is enabled. More complexity. There are many schemes to make work what you suggest which is essentially a good idea. Big rigs do this. Would need a relay and a relay driver that is connected to the PTT line. As the old saying goes, "It's doable." On the other hand, drawing air out of a rig's box is the best way since it is removing the hot air. But if the fan is placed so air is forced into the box at the bottom, the placement of the fan reduces the sound of the fan if the box is elevated on feet, for example. In other words, placement of the fan is an essential element in the noise produced. Also, if the fan is mounted on rubber bushings, the sound is not transmitted mechanically back into the box. If the box is a hunk of iron, no problem but most of them are small and light which invites some coupling of the vibrations back into the box and makes the box a soundboard for the noise. However, most sound is acoustic and with mine, all I heard was wind noise and this is why merely slowing down the fan is a way to eliminate a lot of the sound. The exhausted air does not need to be very high so slowing it down does what is needed: Removing the hot air from the box. The proper value of resistor is therefore a way to do this and it's now something new or unique. Also, the fan I used is essentially like the one suggested previously only slightly larger. It was a 2-in fan measuring from side to side. Bob ¡ª KK5R -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 1/17/19, Tom, wb6b <wb6b@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Cooling fan Shroud To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, January 17, 2019, 9:02 PM Another easy solution is to simply run the fan from the 12V transmit power, assuming that is not what you are already doing. No reason to run the fan while receiving. Tom, wb6b |
Re: Unexpected measurements
I did some testing on my v4 board and found interesting correlation (though not able to verify mathematical accuracy):
The lower the signal at TP1 in CW transmit, the lower the output power.? This would have nothing to do with the LPFs either in the front end prior to the transmit amps, nor on the output. This went on until above 14mhz, where the power starting dropping with out a decrease in level at TP1. To me this suggests that there is something in the way that the design unbalances the first mixer to allow for the "bleed through" of the changed frequency of Clock#2. I then used a constant tone through my mic for the ubitx using a signal generator connected to a powered speaker.? I kept the postion of the mic constant and changed the bands.? With this test, the 7.2mhz signal had more power than the 14.3mhz signal.? This suggests that the transmit power that others and I have been measuring is not indicative of the SSB power. Again, this points to the CW process of unbalancing the first mixer has having side effects that impact power on some of the bands. I should also note that the signal I measured with my scope was not at all sine wave clean in CW mode. It was almost square.? Would also explain the large amount of harmonics that I have measured with my inexpensive RF Explorer SA. At this point I will be going back and coming up with a better way to inject a 1 or 2 tone audio signal into the uBitx to then measure the harmonics.?? Has anyone else seen this type of behavior? 73 Evan AC9TU |