Re: 80m hexfet power amplifier by W7ZOI
Dear Farhan,
I'm now building the PA but I'm in doubt about the two unmarked capacitors at each side of the input attenuator, should I use 0.1uF each? Thanks. Dan, HK4DEI
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On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Richard Andrew Knack via Groups.Io <ihc73scout2@...> wrote: I had my WA2EBY toroids wound for me by the same guy who does the toroid sets for Elecraft, to Elecraft's approved standards. I am waiting for the rest of the parts to arrive from Mouser, with the exception of the SMD resistors, which are on order from China. The ones from Mouser are on back-order, and won't arrive until NOVEMBER (!), and I really don't want to wait quite that long...
Rich KC8MWG
On Friday, July 7, 2017, 9:04:32 PM EDT, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack= [email protected]> wrote:
Diz's company, Kits And Parts, is a gold mine for hard-to-find caps and toroids. A friend of mine has one of his One Watters and it's a fun little rig. Keep him in mind when you're building.
Jack, W8TEE
From: Leonard < dredger@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] 80m hexfet power amplifier by W7ZOI "Yeah, I forgot about Diz. He's good. He also has a toroid kit for the WA2EBY LPF assembly, but not a cap kit as far as I know...
john AD5YE"
Diz might put together a mica cap kit for the wa2eby amplifier. Someone would have to ask him. That's how the toroid kit came to be. I asked him. I bought all of the mica caps from Mouser.
Leonard
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It's been posted before, but I still think this is a nice case.
Jack, W8TEE
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From: Michael Hagen <motdog@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] A suitable case ?
Fits like a Glove!?? Jameco, I like them.
They upped the price a buck since I bought.
Warning, the Bottom (White) is Al.
But, the Top (Black) IS STEEL.? I know, I put my speaker there!
No Nibbling on the TOP.? I drilled and then sabre saw, and big
half round file.
By the way, they got an inexpensive Nibbler.? Good for under
1/16" Al?
Mike, WA6ISP
On 7/8/2017 4:02 PM, Jack Purdum via
Groups.Io wrote:
Nope. The TFT
displays are 2.5" high.
Jack, W8TEE
Raj:
Thanks for the tip. ?I wonder if there would be
enough space for Jack Purdum's TFT display?
--
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID "MotDog@..."
Mike@...
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Fits like a Glove!?? Jameco, I like them.
They upped the price a buck since I bought.
Warning, the Bottom (White) is Al.
But, the Top (Black) IS STEEL.? I know, I put my speaker there!
No Nibbling on the TOP.? I drilled and then sabre saw, and big
half round file.
By the way, they got an inexpensive Nibbler.? Good for under
1/16" Al?
Mike, WA6ISP
On 7/8/2017 4:02 PM, Jack Purdum via
Groups.Io wrote:
Nope. The TFT
displays are 2.5" high.
Jack, W8TEE
Raj:
Thanks for the tip. ?I wonder if there would be
enough space for Jack Purdum's TFT display?
--
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID "MotDog@..."
Mike@...
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Nope. The TFT displays are 2.5" high.
Jack, W8TEE
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From: Craig Wadsworth <cwadsworth@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] A suitable case ? Raj: Thanks for the tip. ?I wonder if there would be enough space for Jack Purdum's TFT display?
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Re: No RF Power Output From Bitx40
Ok, just tested it. I have 12v on pin 3 when I key up the mic and I get 5v out on pin 1 when I key up the mic.?
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Re: Raduino v1.18 (improved CW performance) released
Yes the setting at 40Hz is off a bit and same with 50Hz it seems like if i could find a middle ground all would be spot on.
David
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Raj: Thanks for the tip. ?I wonder if there would be enough space for Jack Purdum's TFT display?
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Re: W8TEE Software Release 1.00
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On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote: Within the hour I will be uploading Release 1.00 of the software for the TFT mods discussed earlier. This software assumes you are using the PCB, AD9850, Mega 2560 Pro Mini, and rotary encoder as was discussed here earlier. There are three files:? ? ?1) B40SoftwareRel0100.ino ?-- ?the main sketch for the Mega ? ?2) MorseCode.h -- ?a supporting file that holds a number of data items used for the (pending) CW mode. ? ?3) Assembly Manual -- ?only one page right now, and that centers around how to get the Voltage field on the display to work properly. It also discusses the required directory structure needed to compile the files.
I apologize for the long time it took to get this out there, but there have been numerous fires that needed to be stomped out first. Please report bugs as soon as you find them so others don't get frustrated.
Jack, W8TEE
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Re: Raduino v1.18 (improved CW performance) released
On Sat, July 8, 2017 23:12, N8DAH wrote: Can we add fine tune as a option that can turn on and off in the normal mode settings w/o the "tune" button? I also noted in my Bitx I am about 45Hz off so I either get 40 or 50Hz I can't fine tune the radio settings. Hi David, you mentioned your BitX is 45Hz off, did the calibration procedure not work for you? Or do you mean that the 10Hz precision of calibration procedure is not sufficient? Calibration currently works in steps of 10 Hz (at the time I assumed this is sufficient precision), but perhaps we should change the step size of the cal procedure to 1 Hz for even more accuracy?) 73 Allard PE1NWL
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If you're viewing it from the main site, try this direct link to the image file:
then click over it to view full size on your browser, also, every web browser has a zoom function, look for it. Dan.
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On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Dexter N Muir <dexy@...> wrote: Is there a circuit diagram with 'hovers' over the components? My eyesight and computer schema do not lend well to viewing the diagram at hfsigs.
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Is there a circuit diagram with 'hovers' over the components? My eyesight and computer schema do not lend well to viewing the diagram at hfsigs.
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W8TEE Software Release 1.00
Within the hour I will be uploading Release 1.00 of the software for the TFT mods discussed earlier. This software assumes you are using the PCB, AD9850, Mega 2560 Pro Mini, and rotary encoder as was discussed here earlier. There are three files:? ? ?1) B40SoftwareRel0100.ino ?-- ?the main sketch for the Mega ? ?2) MorseCode.h -- ?a supporting file that holds a number of data items used for the (pending) CW mode. ? ?3) Assembly Manual -- ?only one page right now, and that centers around how to get the Voltage field on the display to work properly. It also discusses the required directory structure needed to compile the files.
I apologize for the long time it took to get this out there, but there have been numerous fires that needed to be stomped out first. Please report bugs as soon as you find them so others don't get frustrated.
Jack, W8TEE
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Re: Raduino v1.18 (improved CW performance) released
Can we add fine tune as a option that can turn on and off in the normal mode settings w/o the "tune" button? I also noted in my Bitx I am about 45Hz off so I either get 40 or 50Hz I can't fine tune the radio settings. I hope its not a lot to ask and only wish I knew enough to help.
? Thanks for the great work I will be park ops in a few mins here on 7.277 I hope I can make it out barefoot.
?
?73
?David
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Re: No RF Power Output From Bitx40
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 12:01 pm, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
I used the CW trick (part of the recent Raduino mods) with the 10K resistor but instead of hooking up the other end of the resistor to the raduino, I hooked it up to a 100K pot to 5v thru a switch. Switch off, the BitX operates normally. Switch on, the BitX sends a carrier, of whatever power you want based on where the 100K pot is set, when you hit the PTT.
Excellent idea Vince! I'll include this suggestion in the "user instructions" of the raduino software. 73 Allard PE1NWL
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Re: No RF Power Output From Bitx40
Vince
Thanks.? I will try it.
Arv _._
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On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote:
Low power tuning?? No problem.? I used the CW trick (part of the
recent Raduino mods) with the 10K resistor but instead of hooking up the other end of the resistor to the raduino, I hooked it up to a 100K pot to 5v thru a switch.? Switch off, the BitX operates normally.? Switch on, the BitX sends a carrier, of whatever power you want based on where the 100K pot is set, when you hit the PTT.? With the 100K you can take it down to nothing.? It's very possible a 25K or 50k would also work satisfactorily but I didn't check, the 100K was handy.
Vince.
On 07/08/2017 12:51 PM, Arv Evans wrote:
Rich? KC8MWG
MOSFETs will blow from over-current faster than I can reach the
controls, but
I am old and slow so your mileage may vary.
Tune up has always been one of my complaints about the BITX design.? We
need a low-power output setting for adjusting the ATU, and then ability
to switch
to higher power for normal use.? Back in the BITX20A and BITX17A days I
used
an audio oscillator with two switch selected output levels.? Low level
was used
to generate less than 0.1 watts output for tuning the ATU and high level
AF out
for sending CW.? This works if the antenna is not too far from 50 ohms,
but does
not protect the RF PA if no antenna is connected.
Some have experimented with current-limited power supplies for the PA stage.
I'm not sure how effective that might have been.
I wonder what might happen if a small resistance and bypass capacitor were
placed in series with the IRF510 source lead?
Back in the bad old days of vacuum tubes and thermionic emission we used
small inductances and parallel capacitors? in plate circuits to minimize
parasitic
oscillations.? ? The oscillation mode is different with MOSFETs? but
this might
warrant? further exploration.
ALC circuits for the RF PA stage might be useful for detecting and
taming some
oscillations, but might be tricky to adjust for SSB use.
I wonder if the RF PA voltage might be reduced to some low level for tune-up
and then switched to higher voltage for normal operation?? Using low
voltage
on the drain lead during tune-up could cause non-linearity and spurious
outputs but for short-term tune-up action this might not be too
objectionable.
Part of the attraction of BITX designs is that is always potential for
modification
and hopefully improvement.
Arv? K7HKL
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On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Richard Andrew Knack via Groups.Io
<ihc73scout2=yahoo.com@groups.io
<mailto:ihc73scout2=yahoo.com@groups.io>> wrote:
? ? How quickly will IRF-510's blow? And how much power will it take? In
? ? other words, if you have a transceiver or an amp that has them for
? ? finals, do you have time to use an automatic antenna tuner to get an
? ? impedance match? Or will the finals blow while the tuner is running
? ? through relays and inductances trying to find a match?
? ? Rich
? ? KC8MWG
? ? On Saturday, July 8, 2017, 10:31:21 AM EDT, Arv Evans
? ? <arvid.evans@... <mailto:arvid.evans@...>> wrote:
? ? K3HJP
? ? Like Raj said...the IRF510 is probably blown, usually due to
? ? transmitting into something other
? ? than a 50 ohm load.? If the output impedance is too high the final
? ? will go into oscillation and
? ? self-destruct.
? ? Arv? K7HKL
? ? _._
? ? On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 7:32 AM, <Kc3hjp@...
? ? <mailto:Kc3hjp@...>> wrote:
? ? ? ? Hi guys, I finally got around to finishing my Bitx40 project.
? ? ? ? Everything works but it will not transmit. This has me
? ? ? ? scratching my head. Here are some details.
? ? ? ? - when I press the PTT on the mic I can hear the relay pull in
? ? ? ? and receive audio goes away as it should.
? ? ? ? - I've verified that I have 12vdc on the PA connection and it's
? ? ? ? wired in the right direction.
? ? ? ? - mic element ohms out properly and it's wired in the right
? ? ? ? direction according to instructions
? ? ? ? - 152mA on receive
? ? ? ? - 260mA on transmit with no audio
? ? ? ? - current may change by .001mA when yelling into the mic
? ? ? ? - set PA bios pot makes no difference in current reading with
? ? ? ? mic keyed (audio/no audio)
? ? ? ? - mic element 0.877k ohms in one direction and 1.101k ohms in
? ? ? ? other direction
? ? ? ? - same mic ohm values on the mic connector and board connector
? ? ? ? - 12vdc between the Gate and Drain of the PA. No voltage between
? ? ? ? the Gate and Source when mic is keyed
? ? ? ? Any ideas?
--
? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Raduino v1.18 (improved CW performance) released
I've just released raduino_v1.18, download it from New in this release:
- improved CW performance at higher CW speeds:
- reduced the delay at the start of CW transmissions (first dit is no longer lost at high speed CW) - optimized timings so that 1:3 CW-ratio is kept even at high CW speed
- improved FINE TUNE mode so that exact frequency (at 1 Hz precision) is displayed while the SPOT button is held pressed
- added an extra option in the SETTINGS menu for setting semiQSK ON or OFF.
This may be useful for CW operators who want to manually activate the PTT (e.g. using a foot switch). - if semiQSK is ON: ???? radio will automatically switch to CWL (or CWU), and go into TX mode when the morse key goes down ???? go back to RX automatically when the QSKdelay time is exceeded ???? radio will switch back to LSB (or USB) when the operator presses the PTT switch - if semiQSK is OFF: ???? operator must activate PTT manually to move the radio in TX ???? pressing the PTT does not affect the mode. Use the Function Button to select the desired mode (LSB-USB-CWL-CWU)
- corrected a bug that FINE TUNE was not properly applied in USB mode
Happy BitX-ing! 73 Allard PE1NWL
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Re: HELP NEEDED WITH ADDING USB FUNCTION TO EXISTING CODE.
Allard,
Thanks for the pointers, I will try again.
Joe
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On Sat, Jul 8, 2017, 4:47 PM Allard PE1NWL < pe1nwl@...> wrote: Joe,
do something like this:
? if (USB) // if we are in UPPER side band mode
? ? si5351.set_freq((IF + Dial_freq) * 100ULL, SI5351_CLK2);
? else // if we are in LOWER side band mode
? ? si5351.set_freq((IF - Dial_freq) * 100ULL, SI5351_CLK2);
In other words you just flip the VFO freq to the other side of the IF.
The IF is (approx) 12 MHz.
so for LSB: VFOfreq = 12-7= 5MHz
and for USB: VFOfreq = 12+7= 19Mhz
73 Allard PE1NWL
On Sat, July 8, 2017 20:36, Joe wrote:
> Vince,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
> Yes, i have looked at both methods. But no luck in adding to existing
> code.
>
> I tried using code from Peter Flemming, as he use clk2 and clk0 for vfo
> and
> bfo.
> I built a bitx40 and used this method. It works fine in his sketch but my
> skill level has not been successful in adding it to our code.
>
> I also looked at the current Raduino method but no go for me either.
>
> Frustrating, not being able to add 6 or 7 lines for a solution.
>
> Joe
> VE1BWV
>
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017, 1:40 PM Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote:
>
>> Joe, there are two ways to get USB.? The first way is what's offered in
>> Allard's Raduino project which shifts CLK2 to 19MHz.? The second way
>> (which I'm going to be doing when life gets outta the way and lets me
>> finish it) is to scrap the current BFO and use CLK0 for the BFO.
>>
>> Vince.
>>
>>
>> On 07/08/2017 12:21 PM, Joe wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Myself and Adrian (VK4L) have been working on code developed by PD8W.
>> > We believe it would be a very nice addition to software choices for
>> our
>> > fellow hams.
>> >
>> >
>> > It works with an atmega 2560, a SI5351, a TFT colour display.
>> > Just plug the display into the atmega and wire up the SI5351 along
>> with
>> > a few buttons.
>> > Easy and that part works great.
>> >
>> >
>> > After much effort I have been able to make the code work(almost),
>> > It currently has a nice display layout and displays everything fine on
>> > the TFT colour Display.
>> > I tunes the Bitx40? very smoothly( rotary encoder).
>> > I added a button to change the vfo freq time stepping it? also works
>> well.
>> >
>> >
>> > Our goal is to *add USB,* so we can use it for *Digital modes.*
>> >
>> >
>> > After burning many brains cells, (and at my age, I cannot afford to
>> burn
>> > to many) I cannot seem to get my head around making the code work for
>> USB,
>> > I tried cut and pastes from many codes and still no success.
>> >
>> > We are both aware the existing code could be much better structured
>> > From looking around the internet, I don't see any code offering the
>> > functions with a good colour display.
>> >
>> > I realize Jack , W8TEE is working on a great project and I have his
>> > boards and parts populated and near ready.
>> >
>> > However, this project is different. It offers off the shelf usage of
>> > standard Arduino modules, and a plugin TFT Colour Display, and
>> minimal
>> > components..
>> > Unfortunately, the author is not available for help to finish off a
>> few
>> > items.
>> >
>> > It is is a pain to decode, but we are hoping someone can give us a
>> hand
>> > getting over this *1 major? issue (adding USB function*).
>> >
>> > Once this is done, the code will be completely functional and
>> available
>> > to anyone? who would like it.
>> > The? additional items to display for tx / rx etc ... should not be a
>> big
>> > issue.
>> >
>> > I have attached the code below
>> >
>> >
>> > Any help would be much appreciated.
>> >
>> > Joe
>> > VE1BWV
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>>? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
>>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: HELP NEEDED WITH ADDING USB FUNCTION TO EXISTING CODE.
Joe,
do something like this:
if (USB) // if we are in UPPER side band mode si5351.set_freq((IF + Dial_freq) * 100ULL, SI5351_CLK2); else // if we are in LOWER side band mode si5351.set_freq((IF - Dial_freq) * 100ULL, SI5351_CLK2);
In other words you just flip the VFO freq to the other side of the IF.
The IF is (approx) 12 MHz. so for LSB: VFOfreq = 12-7= 5MHz and for USB: VFOfreq = 12+7= 19Mhz
73 Allard PE1NWL
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On Sat, July 8, 2017 20:36, Joe wrote: Vince,
Thanks for the reply. Yes, i have looked at both methods. But no luck in adding to existing code.
I tried using code from Peter Flemming, as he use clk2 and clk0 for vfo and bfo. I built a bitx40 and used this method. It works fine in his sketch but my skill level has not been successful in adding it to our code.
I also looked at the current Raduino method but no go for me either.
Frustrating, not being able to add 6 or 7 lines for a solution.
Joe VE1BWV
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017, 1:40 PM Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote:
Joe, there are two ways to get USB. The first way is what's offered in Allard's Raduino project which shifts CLK2 to 19MHz. The second way (which I'm going to be doing when life gets outta the way and lets me finish it) is to scrap the current BFO and use CLK0 for the BFO.
Vince.
On 07/08/2017 12:21 PM, Joe wrote:
Hi,
Myself and Adrian (VK4L) have been working on code developed by PD8W. We believe it would be a very nice addition to software choices for our
fellow hams.
It works with an atmega 2560, a SI5351, a TFT colour display. Just plug the display into the atmega and wire up the SI5351 along with
a few buttons. Easy and that part works great.
After much effort I have been able to make the code work(almost), It currently has a nice display layout and displays everything fine on the TFT colour Display. I tunes the Bitx40 very smoothly( rotary encoder). I added a button to change the vfo freq time stepping it also works well.
Our goal is to *add USB,* so we can use it for *Digital modes.*
After burning many brains cells, (and at my age, I cannot afford to burn
to many) I cannot seem to get my head around making the code work for USB,
I tried cut and pastes from many codes and still no success.
We are both aware the existing code could be much better structured From looking around the internet, I don't see any code offering the functions with a good colour display.
I realize Jack , W8TEE is working on a great project and I have his boards and parts populated and near ready.
However, this project is different. It offers off the shelf usage of standard Arduino modules, and a plugin TFT Colour Display, and minimal
components.. Unfortunately, the author is not available for help to finish off a few
items.
It is is a pain to decode, but we are hoping someone can give us a hand
getting over this *1 major issue (adding USB function*).
Once this is done, the code will be completely functional and available
to anyone who would like it. The additional items to display for tx / rx etc ... should not be a big
issue.
I have attached the code below
Any help would be much appreciated.
Joe VE1BWV
-- Michigan VHF Corp.
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Re: No RF Power Output From Bitx40
OK I have worked out the circuit hope you can see it OK in this photo?
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On 8 Jul 2017 20:01, "Vince Vielhaber" < vev@...> wrote:
Low power tuning?? No problem.? I used the CW trick (part of the
recent Raduino mods) with the 10K resistor but instead of hooking up the other end of the resistor to the raduino, I hooked it up to a 100K pot to 5v thru a switch.? Switch off, the BitX operates normally.? Switch on, the BitX sends a carrier, of whatever power you want based on where the 100K pot is set, when you hit the PTT.? With the 100K you can take it down to nothing.? It's very possible a 25K or 50k would also work satisfactorily but I didn't check, the 100K was handy.
Vince.
On 07/08/2017 12:51 PM, Arv Evans wrote:
Rich? KC8MWG
MOSFETs will blow from over-current faster than I can reach the
controls, but
I am old and slow so your mileage may vary.
Tune up has always been one of my complaints about the BITX design.? We
need a low-power output setting for adjusting the ATU, and then ability
to switch
to higher power for normal use.? Back in the BITX20A and BITX17A days I
used
an audio oscillator with two switch selected output levels.? Low level
was used
to generate less than 0.1 watts output for tuning the ATU and high level
AF out
for sending CW.? This works if the antenna is not too far from 50 ohms,
but does
not protect the RF PA if no antenna is connected.
Some have experimented with current-limited power supplies for the PA stage.
I'm not sure how effective that might have been.
I wonder what might happen if a small resistance and bypass capacitor were
placed in series with the IRF510 source lead?
Back in the bad old days of vacuum tubes and thermionic emission we used
small inductances and parallel capacitors? in plate circuits to minimize
parasitic
oscillations.? ? The oscillation mode is different with MOSFETs? but
this might
warrant? further exploration.
ALC circuits for the RF PA stage might be useful for detecting and
taming some
oscillations, but might be tricky to adjust for SSB use.
I wonder if the RF PA voltage might be reduced to some low level for tune-up
and then switched to higher voltage for normal operation?? Using low
voltage
on the drain lead during tune-up could cause non-linearity and spurious
outputs but for short-term tune-up action this might not be too
objectionable.
Part of the attraction of BITX designs is that is always potential for
modification
and hopefully improvement.
Arv? K7HKL
_._
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Richard Andrew Knack via Groups.Io
<ihc73scout2=yahoo.com@groups.io
<mailto:ihc73scout2=yahoo.com@groups.io>> wrote:
? ? How quickly will IRF-510's blow? And how much power will it take? In
? ? other words, if you have a transceiver or an amp that has them for
? ? finals, do you have time to use an automatic antenna tuner to get an
? ? impedance match? Or will the finals blow while the tuner is running
? ? through relays and inductances trying to find a match?
? ? Rich
? ? KC8MWG
? ? On Saturday, July 8, 2017, 10:31:21 AM EDT, Arv Evans
? ? <arvid.evans@... <mailto:arvid.evans@...>> wrote:
? ? K3HJP
? ? Like Raj said...the IRF510 is probably blown, usually due to
? ? transmitting into something other
? ? than a 50 ohm load.? If the output impedance is too high the final
? ? will go into oscillation and
? ? self-destruct.
? ? Arv? K7HKL
? ? _._
? ? On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 7:32 AM, <Kc3hjp@...
? ? <mailto:Kc3hjp@...>> wrote:
? ? ? ? Hi guys, I finally got around to finishing my Bitx40 project.
? ? ? ? Everything works but it will not transmit. This has me
? ? ? ? scratching my head. Here are some details.
? ? ? ? - when I press the PTT on the mic I can hear the relay pull in
? ? ? ? and receive audio goes away as it should.
? ? ? ? - I've verified that I have 12vdc on the PA connection and it's
? ? ? ? wired in the right direction.
? ? ? ? - mic element ohms out properly and it's wired in the right
? ? ? ? direction according to instructions
? ? ? ? - 152mA on receive
? ? ? ? - 260mA on transmit with no audio
? ? ? ? - current may change by .001mA when yelling into the mic
? ? ? ? - set PA bios pot makes no difference in current reading with
? ? ? ? mic keyed (audio/no audio)
? ? ? ? - mic element 0.877k ohms in one direction and 1.101k ohms in
? ? ? ? other direction
? ? ? ? - same mic ohm values on the mic connector and board connector
? ? ? ? - 12vdc between the Gate and Drain of the PA. No voltage between
? ? ? ? the Gate and Source when mic is keyed
? ? ? ? Any ideas?
--
? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: No RF Power Output From Bitx40
Low power tuning? No problem. I used the CW trick (part of the recent Raduino mods) with the 10K resistor but instead of hooking up the other end of the resistor to the raduino, I hooked it up to a 100K pot to 5v thru a switch. Switch off, the BitX operates normally. Switch on, the BitX sends a carrier, of whatever power you want based on where the 100K pot is set, when you hit the PTT. With the 100K you can take it down to nothing. It's very possible a 25K or 50k would also work satisfactorily but I didn't check, the 100K was handy.
Vince.
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On 07/08/2017 12:51 PM, Arv Evans wrote: Rich KC8MWG
MOSFETs will blow from over-current faster than I can reach the controls, but I am old and slow so your mileage may vary.
Tune up has always been one of my complaints about the BITX design. We need a low-power output setting for adjusting the ATU, and then ability to switch to higher power for normal use. Back in the BITX20A and BITX17A days I used an audio oscillator with two switch selected output levels. Low level was used to generate less than 0.1 watts output for tuning the ATU and high level AF out for sending CW. This works if the antenna is not too far from 50 ohms, but does not protect the RF PA if no antenna is connected.
Some have experimented with current-limited power supplies for the PA stage. I'm not sure how effective that might have been.
I wonder what might happen if a small resistance and bypass capacitor were placed in series with the IRF510 source lead?
Back in the bad old days of vacuum tubes and thermionic emission we used small inductances and parallel capacitors in plate circuits to minimize parasitic oscillations. The oscillation mode is different with MOSFETs but this might warrant further exploration.
ALC circuits for the RF PA stage might be useful for detecting and taming some oscillations, but might be tricky to adjust for SSB use.
I wonder if the RF PA voltage might be reduced to some low level for tune-up and then switched to higher voltage for normal operation? Using low voltage on the drain lead during tune-up could cause non-linearity and spurious outputs but for short-term tune-up action this might not be too objectionable.
Part of the attraction of BITX designs is that is always potential for modification and hopefully improvement.
Arv K7HKL _._
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Richard Andrew Knack via Groups.Io <ihc73scout2@... <mailto:ihc73scout2@...>> wrote:
How quickly will IRF-510's blow? And how much power will it take? In other words, if you have a transceiver or an amp that has them for finals, do you have time to use an automatic antenna tuner to get an impedance match? Or will the finals blow while the tuner is running through relays and inductances trying to find a match?
Rich KC8MWG
On Saturday, July 8, 2017, 10:31:21 AM EDT, Arv Evans <arvid.evans@... <mailto:arvid.evans@...>> wrote:
K3HJP
Like Raj said...the IRF510 is probably blown, usually due to transmitting into something other than a 50 ohm load. If the output impedance is too high the final will go into oscillation and self-destruct.
Arv K7HKL _._
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 7:32 AM, <Kc3hjp@... <mailto:Kc3hjp@...>> wrote:
Hi guys, I finally got around to finishing my Bitx40 project. Everything works but it will not transmit. This has me scratching my head. Here are some details.
- when I press the PTT on the mic I can hear the relay pull in and receive audio goes away as it should. - I've verified that I have 12vdc on the PA connection and it's wired in the right direction. - mic element ohms out properly and it's wired in the right direction according to instructions - 152mA on receive - 260mA on transmit with no audio - current may change by .001mA when yelling into the mic - set PA bios pot makes no difference in current reading with mic keyed (audio/no audio) - mic element 0.877k ohms in one direction and 1.101k ohms in other direction - same mic ohm values on the mic connector and board connector - 12vdc between the Gate and Drain of the PA. No voltage between the Gate and Source when mic is keyed
Any ideas?
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