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Re: Harmonics


 

Gordon

I have been playing with simulation of the 15 meter spur problem.? It seems that
a series LC trap on the filter output might work but only if the trap has very low
resistance and if it is exactly on the spur frequency.? Even then LTSpice simulations
indicate that a couple of db might be lost on the upper end of 15M.? When I added
a few ohms to the trap to make it broader it caused loss that extended well into the
ham band.?

Next tests will be with some of the more exotic filter designs (Chebyshev, etc.) which
have sharper attenuation characteristic.?

Arv
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On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:39 AM Gordon Gibby <ggibby@...> wrote:

Yup it looks like a very easy modificaiton to bring about much better result, which is the kind that I like....


but the only band REALLY hard to fix the spur on is the 15 meter one, right?? ?I haven't been paying very close attention to those discussions but it seemed that a simple high pass filter or so would deal with the 12meter and 10 meter issues....


some people might want to do that....

gordon



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke=[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 1:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Harmonics
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Gordon,

That looks ideal, many will be reluctant to deal with removing the relays from the board.

If we give up on the 15m,12m,10m bands due to the (45mhz-FOp) spur,
that means all we need is two relays on each side of the three remaining LPF's.

The Fujitsu surface mount relays I mentioned before are around $3 each,
and while not exactly on 0.1" centers they will mount nicely to vectorboard with pads on 0.1" centers.

Jerry




On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Gordon Gibby wrote:

Hi Jerry --- I don't think you were addressing ME, but I just proposed about the same thing on a slightly larger board.??

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From my photographs and examination of the board, it looks pretty easy to make the required cuts and connections without removing the existing relays.? ?You can see the cuts required on the photo below.? ?I think they could easily be done with an exacto knife, or with a 1/16-1/8" drill, or with an endmill in a drill.? ?

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If you make multiple wide?cuts on the long traces, their series gap capacitances should be sufficiently small to knock down any bleed-through quite well (I think).? ?Grounding them might even knock it down further.? ?Won't know until this is constructed and tested.? ?

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And of course, different people may reach completely different conclusions on what is the best solutions, depending on what they feel is the best work/benefit ratio!

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Gordon

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