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Re: 20 W Amp Oscillates

 

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Yes it is on a DL


On Mar 14, 2025, at 4:58?PM, jerry-KF6VB via groups.io <jerry@...> wrote:

?Do you have it on a dummy load?

- jerry

On 2025-03-14 13:54, D Solt via groups.io wrote:
It is the K9HZ 20W amp

On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 4:53?PM jerry-KF6VB via groups.io [1]
<jerry@...> wrote:

Is it a K9HZ final? Or the one with the IRF510s?

- Jerry, KF6VB

On 2025-03-14 13:52, D Solt via groups.io [1] wrote:

I got the second T41 v12 with SW ver66.4 with amplifier operating
today. Both are acting the same, oscillations around 40MHz at
several
watts when PTT is engaged. With the oscillation, I was still able
to
do the TX IQ null. I am stumped. I don't have a very accurate way
to
measure power yet; using a 50MHz TBS1052B tek scope and an HP363
kit.
dave, n3ds

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[2] /mt/111686473/243852
[3] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/post
[4] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/editsub/243852
[5]
/g/AmateurRadioBuilders/leave/11522011/243852/920863695/xyzzy



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[1]
[2] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/message/6172
[3] /mt/111686473/243852
[4] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/post
[5] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/editsub/243852
[6]
/g/AmateurRadioBuilders/leave/11522011/243852/920863695/xyzzy


Re: 20 W Amp Oscillates

 

Do you have it on a dummy load?

- jerry


On 2025-03-14 13:54, D Solt via groups.io wrote:
It is the K9HZ 20W amp

On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 4:53?PM jerry-KF6VB via groups.io [1]
<jerry@...> wrote:

Is it a K9HZ final? Or the one with the IRF510s?

- Jerry, KF6VB

On 2025-03-14 13:52, D Solt via groups.io [1] wrote:

I got the second T41 v12 with SW ver66.4 with amplifier operating
today. Both are acting the same, oscillations around 40MHz at
several
watts when PTT is engaged. With the oscillation, I was still able
to
do the TX IQ null. I am stumped. I don't have a very accurate way
to
measure power yet; using a 50MHz TBS1052B tek scope and an HP363
kit.
dave, n3ds

Links:
------
[1] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/message/6170
[2] /mt/111686473/243852
[3] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/post
[4] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/editsub/243852
[5]
/g/AmateurRadioBuilders/leave/11522011/243852/920863695/xyzzy



Links:
------
[1]
[2] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/message/6172
[3] /mt/111686473/243852
[4] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/post
[5] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/editsub/243852
[6]
/g/AmateurRadioBuilders/leave/11522011/243852/920863695/xyzzy


Re: 20 W Amp Oscillates

 

It is the K9HZ 20W amp

On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 4:53?PM jerry-KF6VB via <jerry=[email protected]> wrote:
Is it a K9HZ final? Or the one with the IRF510s?

- Jerry, KF6VB

On 2025-03-14 13:52, D Solt via wrote:
I got the second T41 v12 with SW ver66.4 with amplifier operating
today. Both are acting the same, oscillations around 40MHz at several
watts when PTT is engaged. With the oscillation, I was still able to
do the TX IQ null. I am stumped. I don't have a very accurate way to
measure power yet; using a 50MHz TBS1052B tek scope and an HP363 kit.
dave, n3ds


Links:
------
[1] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/message/6170
[2] /mt/111686473/243852
[3] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/post
[4] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/editsub/243852
[5]
/g/AmateurRadioBuilders/leave/11522011/243852/920863695/xyzzy


Re: 20 W Amp Oscillates

 

Is it a K9HZ final? Or the one with the IRF510s?

- Jerry, KF6VB


On 2025-03-14 13:52, D Solt via groups.io wrote:
I got the second T41 v12 with SW ver66.4 with amplifier operating
today. Both are acting the same, oscillations around 40MHz at several
watts when PTT is engaged. With the oscillation, I was still able to
do the TX IQ null. I am stumped. I don't have a very accurate way to
measure power yet; using a 50MHz TBS1052B tek scope and an HP363 kit.
dave, n3ds


Links:
------
[1] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/message/6170
[2] /mt/111686473/243852
[3] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/post
[4] /g/AmateurRadioBuilders/editsub/243852
[5]
/g/AmateurRadioBuilders/leave/11522011/243852/920863695/xyzzy


Re: 20 W Amp Oscillates

 

I got the second T41 v12 with SW ver66.4 with amplifier operating today.? Both are acting the same, oscillations around 40MHz at several watts when PTT is engaged.? With the oscillation, I was still able to do the TX IQ null.? I am stumped.? I don't have a very accurate way to measure power yet; using a 50MHz TBS1052B tek scope and an HP363 kit.
dave, n3ds


20 W Amp Oscillates

 

I have been setting TX IQ Calibration parameters.? Everything aligns well on the lower bands.? When I engage PTT on 12m, 10m, and 6m in the TX IQ Cal menu, the amp oscillates around 40MHz and draws >2amps.? It I disconnect the input to the amp, it does not oscillate.? When I put a 6db pad between the LPF-Control and the amp it does not oscillate.? It does oscillate if I drop the 6dB pad to 3dB, but only draws 700ma.? Bias current is 250ma per side.? Maybe the correct filters are not being switched in and there is some weird reactance on the input of the amp.? Any suggestions?
dave, n3ds


Re: blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control

 

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Perfect! ? Or not so much, but its fixed now!


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Staunton, Illinois

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On Mar 12, 2025, at 6:47?PM, D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...> wrote:

?Thanks Bill. The cable was inverted.?
dave

On Mar 12, 2025, at 5:10?PM, K9HZ via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:

?Ohhhh wait. ?Make sure the cable (low control J27) pins 2 and 4 are not somehow switched to 7 and 9 by being 180 degrees wrong !!! That would cause this. ? 12V directly on the OCL!!!


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com


email:??bill@...

?


On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:13?PM, D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...> wrote:

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I have blown two U10's during receiver calibration this week.? This is after operating for several hours.? One popped when calibrating the 10m band and one when calibrating 6m.? A nice puff of smoke is generated.? Any thoughts on why this may be happening?
dave, n3ds


Re: blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control

 

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Thanks Bill. The cable was inverted.?
dave

On Mar 12, 2025, at 5:10?PM, K9HZ via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:

?Ohhhh wait. ?Make sure the cable (low control J27) pins 2 and 4 are not somehow switched to 7 and 9 by being 180 degrees wrong !!! That would cause this. ? 12V directly on the OCL!!!


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com


email:??bill@...

?


On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:13?PM, D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...> wrote:

?
I have blown two U10's during receiver calibration this week.? This is after operating for several hours.? One popped when calibrating the 10m band and one when calibrating 6m.? A nice puff of smoke is generated.? Any thoughts on why this may be happening?
dave, n3ds


Re: blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control

 

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ULN2803 on the LPF Control board. I found the problem. The high filter ribbon cable was inverted from what it should be. Embarrassing mistake.?
dave

On Mar 12, 2025, at 4:40?PM, Albert Peter via groups.io <albertfpeter@...> wrote:

?
Dave, Specifically which U10 went on which board. We have multiple ICs with the same designation.
Could you also give a run down of your configuration? V12 boards from what source, etc??
Al


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 4:13 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [AmateurRadioBuilders] blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control
?
I have blown two U10's during receiver calibration this week.? This is after operating for several hours.? One popped when calibrating the 10m band and one when calibrating 6m.? A nice puff of smoke is generated.? Any thoughts on why this may be happening?
dave, n3ds


Re: Transmit IQ Calibration

 

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Compile Options:

??? Faster with LTO

??? 528MHz

??? Dual Serial

I had tried dual serial? when there was no Serial Monitor output with Serial. With dual there is no display at all.

I did have MAIN_BOARD_ATTINY_SHUTDOWN defined.

There were numerous unused variable warnings and this:

??? In function 'void TwoToneTest()':
??? cc1plus.exe: warning: statement will never be executed [-Wswitch-unreachable]


Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:311964, data:133432, headers:8228?? free for files:7672840
?? RAM1: variables:195840, code:288328, padding:6584?? free for local variables:33536
?? RAM2: variables:483744? free for malloc/new:40544
"C:\\Users\\w3rdl\\AppData\\Local\\Arduino15\\packages\\teensy\\tools\\teensy-tools\\1.59.0/stdout_redirect" "C:\\Users\\w3rdl\\AppData\\Local\\arduino\\sketches\\53465F69866BB42B5CF1A9D146FC02C0/SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino.lst" "C:\\Users\\w3rdl\\AppData\\Local\\Arduino15\\packages\\teensy\\tools\\teensy-compile\\11.3.1/arm/bin/arm-none-eabi-objdump" -d -S -C "C:\\Users\\w3rdl\\AppData\\Local\\arduino\\sketches\\53465F69866BB42B5CF1A9D146FC02C0/SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino.elf"
Multiple libraries were found for "LinearRegression.h"
? Used: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\Linear_Regression
? Not used: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\Regressino
Using library Adafruit MCP23017 Arduino Library at version 2.3.2 in folder: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\Adafruit_MCP23017_Arduino_Library
Using library Adafruit BusIO at version 1.17.0 in folder: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\Adafruit_BusIO
Using library Wire at version 1.0 in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\Wire
Using library SPI at version 1.0 in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\SPI
Using library Chrono at version 1.2.0 in folder: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\Chrono
Using library Linear Regression at version 1.0 in folder: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\Linear_Regression
Using library Regression at version 1.0.1 in folder: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\Regression
Using library Adafruit GFX Library at version 1.12.0 in folder: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\Adafruit_GFX_Library
Using library OpenAudio_ArduinoLibrary-master in folder: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\OpenAudio_ArduinoLibrary-master (legacy)
Using library Audio at version 1.3 in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\Audio
Using library SD at version 2.0.0 in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\SD
Using library SdFat at version 2.1.2 in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\SdFat
Using library SerialFlash at version 0.5 in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\SerialFlash
Using library Time at version 1.6.1 in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\Time
Using library Metro in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\Metro (legacy)
Using library Bounce in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\Bounce (legacy)
Using library Timer at version 1.2.1 in folder: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\Timer
Using library RA8875 at version 0.7.11 in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\RA8875
Using library EEPROM at version 2.0 in folder: C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\hardware\avr\1.59.0\libraries\EEPROM
Using library ArduinoJson at version 7.3.1 in folder: Y:\Documents\Arduino\libraries\ArduinoJson
"C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\tools\teensy-tools\1.59.0/teensy_post_compile" "-file=SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino" "-path=C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\arduino\sketches\53465F69866BB42B5CF1A9D146FC02C0" "-tools=C:\Users\w3rdl\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\teensy\tools\teensy-tools\1.59.0" "-board=TEENSY41" -reboot "-port=usb:0/1A0000/0/1/4/4/1" "-portlabel={serial.port.label}" "-portprotocol={serial.port.protocol}"

On 3/12/2025 3:56 PM, Albert Peter via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
?V66-7 is still evolving, so there may be problems. One is the SWR I2C. 66-7 assumes use of the AD7991 and no push button on-off. That is still in progress.? How are you configured? It is also single Serial at present. What do you show on the I2C startup list? I will try to duplicate this issue or provide a fix, but I need more info.
Thanks,

Al


From:?[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Luken W3RDL via groups.io <now.w3rdl@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, March 12, 2025 3:49 PM
To:?[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?

Al, I was using Ver66-4 and was successful doing the Frequency C and Receive IQ Cal. All Bands were -75 to 80 Db. I had moved the Temp display to the Top but it was cutting off the top of the Fonts so I moved it up a few pixels. When I rcompied, I got a message about updated libraries available and foolishly click ok. I was not able to compile(some variables not found). I tried chasing them down, but finally gave up. So I reset the Teensy back to Blink and reloaded all of the libraries, including Teensyduino. Finally compiled but system hangs at the Splash Screen. Today I tried 66-7, compiled with "Faster wit LTO", 528MHz, and Serial. It compiled and hangs on the Splash Screen and nothing on Serial Monitor. I normally use Dual Serial, so I tried that and it doesn't even get to the Splash Screen. Not sure what to try next.

On 3/12/2025 10:32 AM, Albert Peter via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I just took the Zip file and used that specific sketch to upload, everything worked just fine. My memory allocations are different, however. The options I used to compile are:
  • Teensy 4.1
  • Faster with LTO
  • 528 MHzz
  • Serial port
  • Memory usage is?
Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:305724, data:132320, headers:8412 ? free for files:7680008
? ?RAM1: variables:194496, code:286280, padding:8632 ? free for local variables:34880
? ?RAM2: variables:471424 ?free for malloc/new:52864

My guess is that you are using one of the optimize options that minimizes memory, and something is overwriting another variable or the stack.
Try the settings above and see what happens.
Al


From:?[email protected] <[email protected]>?on behalf of D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, March 12, 2025 10:10 AM
To:?[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?
Thanks Al.? I have loaded the new SW after erasing the Teensy memory.? The T41 boots with version 66.8, even though the zip file says 66.7.? However, after bootup, the screen is frozen and no buttons or encoders work.? Below is what the arduino IDE 2.3.2 displays after uploading.? Is the unused variable warning significant?
dave, n3ds

C:\Engineering\Ham Radio\Projects\T41SDT Xcvr Project\T41 v12\T41 Software\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino: In function 'void setup_cw_transmit_mode()':
C:\Engineering\Ham Radio\Projects\T41SDT Xcvr Project\T41 v12\T41 Software\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino:3010:9: warning: unused variable 'transmitPowerLevelCWTemp' [-Wunused-variable]
?3010 | ? float transmitPowerLevelCWTemp;
? ? ? | ? ? ? ? ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:280924, data:133432, headers:8548 ? free for files:7703560
? ?RAM1: variables:195712, code:258520, padding:3624 ? free for local variables:66432
? ?RAM2: variables:483744 ?free for malloc/new:40544

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 6:40?PM Albert Peter via ?<albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,?
Jack and I are working on an official release, but until then , try this one. It has revised calibration code. Also, the preliminary Cal Instructions are attached.
Al


From: [email protected]?<[email protected]> on behalf of D Solt via ?<davesolt=[email protected]>
Sent:?Tuesday, March 11, 2025 6:08 PM
To: [email protected]?<[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?
66.4


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:39?PM, Albert Peter via ?<albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:

?Hi,?
What software version are you using??
Al

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:46?PM, D Solt via ?<davesolt=[email protected]> wrote:

?
My T41 seems to be mostly working, but I have not been able to do the Transmit IQ Calibration.? I am injecting 750Hz into the mic input, but I don't see any sidebands.? It appears that I am not modulating.? Is there a way to check the audio hat.? I have two of them, and they both work the same.? I do see the 750Hz coming on the Main board.?
?
I am using a KiwiSDR as my receiver for the cal procedure.? Any suggestions on how to proceed with troubleshooting?
?
I can do the freq cal, receiver cal, cw power amp cal.
?
dave, n3ds
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V11 T-41 PA idle current

 

With the 510s off the idle current for the PA board on its own is 250mA with the pots adjusted as low as possible.
?
Is this idle current high and indicative of a problem.
?
?
Howard
VE3HBH


Re: blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control

 

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More data here¡­ look what happens if you spin the cable connected to J24 around 180 degrees¡­. you have the 12V+ from pins 2 & 4 NOW on pins 7 & 9 (the 10M and the 6M lines), BUT THEY go to U10 and are OPEN COLLECTOR to GROUND.? So then¡­ when you select EITHER 10M or 6M you BLOW UP U10¡­

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

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Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of K9HZ
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 4:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control

?

Ohhhh wait. ?Make sure the cable (low control J27) pins 2 and 4 are not somehow switched to 7 and 9 by being 180 degrees wrong !!! That would cause this. ? 12V directly on the OCL!!!

?

Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

email:??bill@...

?



On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:13?PM, D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...> wrote:

?

I have blown two U10's during receiver calibration this week.? This is after operating for several hours.? One popped when calibrating the 10m band and one when calibrating 6m.? A nice puff of smoke is generated.? Any thoughts on why this may be happening?

dave, n3ds


Re: Transmit IQ Calibration

 

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The only thing the on/off routine needs is the interrupt routine for the pin interrupt. ?The routine should always be there and it will not be used if you do not build out the hardware (never gets called). ?The whole thing is two lines of code. ?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com


email:??bill@...

?


On Mar 12, 2025, at 12:57?PM, Albert Peter via groups.io <albertfpeter@...> wrote:

?
Hi,
?V66-7 is still evolving, so there may be problems. One is the SWR I2C. 66-7 assumes use of the AD7991 and no push button on-off. That is still in progress.? How are you configured? It is also single Serial at present. What do you show on the I2C startup list? I will try to duplicate this issue or provide a fix, but I need more info.
Thanks,

Al


From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Luken W3RDL via groups.io <now.w3rdl@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, March 12, 2025 3:49 PM
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?

Al, I was using Ver66-4 and was successful doing the Frequency C and Receive IQ Cal. All Bands were -75 to 80 Db. I had moved the Temp display to the Top but it was cutting off the top of the Fonts so I moved it up a few pixels. When I rcompied, I got a message about updated libraries available and foolishly click ok. I was not able to compile(some variables not found). I tried chasing them down, but finally gave up. So I reset the Teensy back to Blink and reloaded all of the libraries, including Teensyduino. Finally compiled but system hangs at the Splash Screen. Today I tried 66-7, compiled with "Faster wit LTO", 528MHz, and Serial. It compiled and hangs on the Splash Screen and nothing on Serial Monitor. I normally use Dual Serial, so I tried that and it doesn't even get to the Splash Screen. Not sure what to try next.

On 3/12/2025 10:32 AM, Albert Peter via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I just took the Zip file and used that specific sketch to upload, everything worked just fine. My memory allocations are different, however. The options I used to compile are:
  • Teensy 4.1
  • Faster with LTO
  • 528 MHzz
  • Serial port
  • Memory usage is?
Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:305724, data:132320, headers:8412 ? free for files:7680008
? ?RAM1: variables:194496, code:286280, padding:8632 ? free for local variables:34880
? ?RAM2: variables:471424 ?free for malloc/new:52864

My guess is that you are using one of the optimize options that minimizes memory, and something is overwriting another variable or the stack.
Try the settings above and see what happens.
Al


From:?[email protected] <[email protected]>?on behalf of D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, March 12, 2025 10:10 AM
To:?[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?
Thanks Al.? I have loaded the new SW after erasing the Teensy memory.? The T41 boots with version 66.8, even though the zip file says 66.7.? However, after bootup, the screen is frozen and no buttons or encoders work.? Below is what the arduino IDE 2.3.2 displays after uploading.? Is the unused variable warning significant?
dave, n3ds

C:\Engineering\Ham Radio\Projects\T41SDT Xcvr Project\T41 v12\T41 Software\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino: In function 'void setup_cw_transmit_mode()':
C:\Engineering\Ham Radio\Projects\T41SDT Xcvr Project\T41 v12\T41 Software\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino:3010:9: warning: unused variable 'transmitPowerLevelCWTemp' [-Wunused-variable]
?3010 | ? float transmitPowerLevelCWTemp;
? ? ? | ? ? ? ? ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:280924, data:133432, headers:8548 ? free for files:7703560
? ?RAM1: variables:195712, code:258520, padding:3624 ? free for local variables:66432
? ?RAM2: variables:483744 ?free for malloc/new:40544

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 6:40?PM Albert Peter via ?<albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,?
Jack and I are working on an official release, but until then , try this one. It has revised calibration code. Also, the preliminary Cal Instructions are attached.
Al


From: [email protected]?<[email protected]> on behalf of D Solt via ?<davesolt=[email protected]>
Sent:?Tuesday, March 11, 2025 6:08 PM
To: [email protected]?<[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?
66.4


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:39?PM, Albert Peter via ?<albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:

?Hi,?
What software version are you using??
Al

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:46?PM, D Solt via ?<davesolt=[email protected]> wrote:

?
My T41 seems to be mostly working, but I have not been able to do the Transmit IQ Calibration.? I am injecting 750Hz into the mic input, but I don't see any sidebands.? It appears that I am not modulating.? Is there a way to check the audio hat.? I have two of them, and they both work the same.? I do see the 750Hz coming on the Main board.?
?
I am using a KiwiSDR as my receiver for the cal procedure.? Any suggestions on how to proceed with troubleshooting?
?
I can do the freq cal, receiver cal, cw power amp cal.
?
dave, n3ds
--

73

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Bob W3RDL


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Re: blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control

 

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Ohhhh wait. ?Make sure the cable (low control J27) pins 2 and 4 are not somehow switched to 7 and 9 by being 180 degrees wrong !!! That would cause this. ? 12V directly on the OCL!!!


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On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:13?PM, D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...> wrote:

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I have blown two U10's during receiver calibration this week.? This is after operating for several hours.? One popped when calibrating the 10m band and one when calibrating 6m.? A nice puff of smoke is generated.? Any thoughts on why this may be happening?
dave, n3ds


Re: blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control

 

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Something is not right. There is nothing connected to those parts that would cause a short great enough to cause smoke. ?Its a ULN2803 that drives the relays (open collector to ground when activated). ?Somehow those open collectors of the part must be fed by 12V WITHOUT the relay coil as a resistance. ??


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com


email:??bill@...

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On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:13?PM, D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...> wrote:

?
I have blown two U10's during receiver calibration this week.? This is after operating for several hours.? One popped when calibrating the 10m band and one when calibrating 6m.? A nice puff of smoke is generated.? Any thoughts on why this may be happening?
dave, n3ds


Re: blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control

 

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Dave, Specifically which U10 went on which board. We have multiple ICs with the same designation.
Could you also give a run down of your configuration? V12 boards from what source, etc??
Al


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 4:13 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [AmateurRadioBuilders] blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control
?
I have blown two U10's during receiver calibration this week.? This is after operating for several hours.? One popped when calibrating the 10m band and one when calibrating 6m.? A nice puff of smoke is generated.? Any thoughts on why this may be happening?
dave, n3ds


blowing ULN2803C on LPF-Control

 

I have blown two U10's during receiver calibration this week.? This is after operating for several hours.? One popped when calibrating the 10m band and one when calibrating 6m.? A nice puff of smoke is generated.? Any thoughts on why this may be happening?
dave, n3ds


Re: Transmit IQ Calibration

 

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Hi,
?V66-7 is still evolving, so there may be problems. One is the SWR I2C. 66-7 assumes use of the AD7991 and no push button on-off. That is still in progress.? How are you configured? It is also single Serial at present. What do you show on the I2C startup list? I will try to duplicate this issue or provide a fix, but I need more info.
Thanks,

Al


From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Luken W3RDL via groups.io <now.w3rdl@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, March 12, 2025 3:49 PM
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
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Al, I was using Ver66-4 and was successful doing the Frequency C and Receive IQ Cal. All Bands were -75 to 80 Db. I had moved the Temp display to the Top but it was cutting off the top of the Fonts so I moved it up a few pixels. When I rcompied, I got a message about updated libraries available and foolishly click ok. I was not able to compile(some variables not found). I tried chasing them down, but finally gave up. So I reset the Teensy back to Blink and reloaded all of the libraries, including Teensyduino. Finally compiled but system hangs at the Splash Screen. Today I tried 66-7, compiled with "Faster wit LTO", 528MHz, and Serial. It compiled and hangs on the Splash Screen and nothing on Serial Monitor. I normally use Dual Serial, so I tried that and it doesn't even get to the Splash Screen. Not sure what to try next.

On 3/12/2025 10:32 AM, Albert Peter via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I just took the Zip file and used that specific sketch to upload, everything worked just fine. My memory allocations are different, however. The options I used to compile are:
  • Teensy 4.1
  • Faster with LTO
  • 528 MHzz
  • Serial port
  • Memory usage is?
Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:305724, data:132320, headers:8412 ? free for files:7680008
? ?RAM1: variables:194496, code:286280, padding:8632 ? free for local variables:34880
? ?RAM2: variables:471424 ?free for malloc/new:52864

My guess is that you are using one of the optimize options that minimizes memory, and something is overwriting another variable or the stack.
Try the settings above and see what happens.
Al


From:?[email protected] <[email protected]>?on behalf of D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, March 12, 2025 10:10 AM
To:?[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?
Thanks Al.? I have loaded the new SW after erasing the Teensy memory.? The T41 boots with version 66.8, even though the zip file says 66.7.? However, after bootup, the screen is frozen and no buttons or encoders work.? Below is what the arduino IDE 2.3.2 displays after uploading.? Is the unused variable warning significant?
dave, n3ds

C:\Engineering\Ham Radio\Projects\T41SDT Xcvr Project\T41 v12\T41 Software\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino: In function 'void setup_cw_transmit_mode()':
C:\Engineering\Ham Radio\Projects\T41SDT Xcvr Project\T41 v12\T41 Software\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino:3010:9: warning: unused variable 'transmitPowerLevelCWTemp' [-Wunused-variable]
?3010 | ? float transmitPowerLevelCWTemp;
? ? ? | ? ? ? ? ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:280924, data:133432, headers:8548 ? free for files:7703560
? ?RAM1: variables:195712, code:258520, padding:3624 ? free for local variables:66432
? ?RAM2: variables:483744 ?free for malloc/new:40544

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 6:40?PM Albert Peter via ?<albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,?
Jack and I are working on an official release, but until then , try this one. It has revised calibration code. Also, the preliminary Cal Instructions are attached.
Al


From: [email protected]?<[email protected]> on behalf of D Solt via ?<davesolt=[email protected]>
Sent:?Tuesday, March 11, 2025 6:08 PM
To: [email protected]?<[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?
66.4


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:39?PM, Albert Peter via ?<albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:

?Hi,?
What software version are you using??
Al

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:46?PM, D Solt via ?<davesolt=[email protected]> wrote:

?
My T41 seems to be mostly working, but I have not been able to do the Transmit IQ Calibration.? I am injecting 750Hz into the mic input, but I don't see any sidebands.? It appears that I am not modulating.? Is there a way to check the audio hat.? I have two of them, and they both work the same.? I do see the 750Hz coming on the Main board.?
?
I am using a KiwiSDR as my receiver for the cal procedure.? Any suggestions on how to proceed with troubleshooting?
?
I can do the freq cal, receiver cal, cw power amp cal.
?
dave, n3ds
--

73 Animated graphic flashing 73 in Morse code.

Bob W3RDL


Virus-free.


Re: Transmit IQ Calibration

 

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Al, I was using Ver66-4 and was successful doing the Frequency C and Receive IQ Cal. All Bands were -75 to 80 Db. I had moved the Temp display to the Top but it was cutting off the top of the Fonts so I moved it up a few pixels. When I rcompied, I got a message about updated libraries available and foolishly click ok. I was not able to compile(some variables not found). I tried chasing them down, but finally gave up. So I reset the Teensy back to Blink and reloaded all of the libraries, including Teensyduino. Finally compiled but system hangs at the Splash Screen. Today I tried 66-7, compiled with "Faster wit LTO", 528MHz, and Serial. It compiled and hangs on the Splash Screen and nothing on Serial Monitor. I normally use Dual Serial, so I tried that and it doesn't even get to the Splash Screen. Not sure what to try next.

On 3/12/2025 10:32 AM, Albert Peter via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I just took the Zip file and used that specific sketch to upload, everything worked just fine. My memory allocations are different, however. The options I used to compile are:
  • Teensy 4.1
  • Faster with LTO
  • 528 MHzz
  • Serial port
  • Memory usage is?
Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:305724, data:132320, headers:8412 ? free for files:7680008
? ?RAM1: variables:194496, code:286280, padding:8632 ? free for local variables:34880
? ?RAM2: variables:471424 ?free for malloc/new:52864

My guess is that you are using one of the optimize options that minimizes memory, and something is overwriting another variable or the stack.
Try the settings above and see what happens.
Al


From:?[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of D Solt via groups.io <davesolt@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, March 12, 2025 10:10 AM
To:?[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?
Thanks Al.? I have loaded the new SW after erasing the Teensy memory.? The T41 boots with version 66.8, even though the zip file says 66.7.? However, after bootup, the screen is frozen and no buttons or encoders work.? Below is what the arduino IDE 2.3.2 displays after uploading.? Is the unused variable warning significant?
dave, n3ds

C:\Engineering\Ham Radio\Projects\T41SDT Xcvr Project\T41 v12\T41 Software\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino: In function 'void setup_cw_transmit_mode()':
C:\Engineering\Ham Radio\Projects\T41SDT Xcvr Project\T41 v12\T41 Software\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino:3010:9: warning: unused variable 'transmitPowerLevelCWTemp' [-Wunused-variable]
?3010 | ? float transmitPowerLevelCWTemp;
? ? ? | ? ? ? ? ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:280924, data:133432, headers:8548 ? free for files:7703560
? ?RAM1: variables:195712, code:258520, padding:3624 ? free for local variables:66432
? ?RAM2: variables:483744 ?free for malloc/new:40544

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 6:40?PM Albert Peter via ?<albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,?
Jack and I are working on an official release, but until then , try this one. It has revised calibration code. Also, the preliminary Cal Instructions are attached.
Al


From: [email protected]?<[email protected]> on behalf of D Solt via ?<davesolt=[email protected]>
Sent:?Tuesday, March 11, 2025 6:08 PM
To: [email protected]?<[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?
66.4


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:39?PM, Albert Peter via ?<albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:

?Hi,?
What software version are you using??
Al

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:46?PM, D Solt via ?<davesolt=[email protected]> wrote:

?
My T41 seems to be mostly working, but I have not been able to do the Transmit IQ Calibration.? I am injecting 750Hz into the mic input, but I don't see any sidebands.? It appears that I am not modulating.? Is there a way to check the audio hat.? I have two of them, and they both work the same.? I do see the 750Hz coming on the Main board.?
?
I am using a KiwiSDR as my receiver for the cal procedure.? Any suggestions on how to proceed with troubleshooting?
?
I can do the freq cal, receiver cal, cw power amp cal.
?
dave, n3ds
--

73 Animated graphic flashing 73 in Morse code.

Bob W3RDL


Virus-free.


Re: Transmit IQ Calibration

 

OK.? That explains it.?
I will keep trying to get TX IQ Calibrated
Thanks.
dave

On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:56?AM Albert Peter via <albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:
Ok Dave,
The. Ad7991 is activated in the code and I am not currently using the shutdown routine. The code to read the diode SWR is not in the sketch, although I used it briefly in the beginning . The whole power and SWR code assumes the AD8703 log detectors are used.
V64 did not have any SWR code, so that may be the culprit.

Your experience will help us with the final code.
Thanks,
Al


On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:43?AM, D Solt via <davesolt=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Appreciate the help Al.
Still hangs after I2C screen.? I wonder if my hardware is affecting this.? My power detect is the swr_diode and my readout is swr_analog.? Additionally, my si5351 is 0x6F instead of 0x60 and I have the ATTiny shutdown routine enabled.
version 66.4 loads and operation is nominal.? I66.4 works on both of my T41's.? 66.8 crashes on both T41's
i will keep playing with the ide parameters
dave

On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 10:32?AM Albert Peter via <albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I just took the Zip file and used that specific sketch to upload, everything worked just fine. My memory allocations are different, however. The options I used to compile are:
  • Teensy 4.1
  • Faster with LTO
  • 528 MHzz
  • Serial port
  • Memory usage is?
Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:305724, data:132320, headers:8412 ? free for files:7680008
? ?RAM1: variables:194496, code:286280, padding:8632 ? free for local variables:34880
? ?RAM2: variables:471424 ?free for malloc/new:52864

My guess is that you are using one of the optimize options that minimizes memory, and something is overwriting another variable or the stack.
Try the settings above and see what happens.
Al


From:?[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of D Solt via <davesolt=[email protected]>
Sent:?Wednesday, March 12, 2025 10:10 AM
To:?[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?
Thanks Al.? I have loaded the new SW after erasing the Teensy memory.? The T41 boots with version 66.8, even though the zip file says 66.7.? However, after bootup, the screen is frozen and no buttons or encoders work.? Below is what the arduino IDE 2.3.2 displays after uploading.? Is the unused variable warning significant?
dave, n3ds

C:\Engineering\Ham Radio\Projects\T41SDT Xcvr Project\T41 v12\T41 Software\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino: In function 'void setup_cw_transmit_mode()':
C:\Engineering\Ham Radio\Projects\T41SDT Xcvr Project\T41 v12\T41 Software\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25\SDTVer066_7_03_08_25.ino:3010:9: warning: unused variable 'transmitPowerLevelCWTemp' [-Wunused-variable]
?3010 | ? float transmitPowerLevelCWTemp;
? ? ? | ? ? ? ? ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Memory Usage on Teensy 4.1:
? FLASH: code:280924, data:133432, headers:8548 ? free for files:7703560
? ?RAM1: variables:195712, code:258520, padding:3624 ? free for local variables:66432
? ?RAM2: variables:483744 ?free for malloc/new:40544

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 6:40?PM Albert Peter via ?<albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,?
Jack and I are working on an official release, but until then , try this one. It has revised calibration code. Also, the preliminary Cal Instructions are attached.
Al


From: [email protected]?<[email protected]> on behalf of D Solt via ?<davesolt=[email protected]>
Sent:?Tuesday, March 11, 2025 6:08 PM
To: [email protected]?<[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [AmateurRadioBuilders] Transmit IQ Calibration
?
66.4


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:39?PM, Albert Peter via ?<albertfpeter=[email protected]> wrote:

?Hi,?
What software version are you using??
Al

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:46?PM, D Solt via ?<davesolt=[email protected]> wrote:

?
My T41 seems to be mostly working, but I have not been able to do the Transmit IQ Calibration.? I am injecting 750Hz into the mic input, but I don't see any sidebands.? It appears that I am not modulating.? Is there a way to check the audio hat.? I have two of them, and they both work the same.? I do see the 750Hz coming on the Main board.?
?
I am using a KiwiSDR as my receiver for the cal procedure.? Any suggestions on how to proceed with troubleshooting?
?
I can do the freq cal, receiver cal, cw power amp cal.
?
dave, n3ds