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Re: Nick's first unit run

 

Yes that's what it's for. But I didn't. My China air filters are here...where!

George

Sent from my LG Phoenix 3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

------ Original message------
From: Nick Andrews
Date: Sat, Jun 25, 2022 6:50 PM
Cc:
Subject:Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. Nick's first unit run

Okay this has been running about 90 minutes.? I turned off all the fans last night and the door was closed from about 11pm to 5pm.? Factory filter installed.? Using Dud's setting parameters.? Haven't gotten the second unit wired up yet.?

By the way,? should the hot lead be looped through and around the ferrite ring??


Nick's first unit run

 

Okay this has been running about 90 minutes.? I turned off all the fans last night and the door was closed from about 11pm to 5pm.? Factory filter installed.? Using Dud's setting parameters.? Haven't gotten the second unit wired up yet.?

By the way,? should the hot lead be looped through and around the ferrite ring??


Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

Just the included sample.? ?I did get a roll of material in the mail I was going to try punching circles from and also see if I can determine the thickness tolerance of the sensor head.? Been crazy busy.? Flying to Lexington for work Monday,? back Wednesday,? driving to NM Saturday for the week of the 4th, then flying to Fayetteville,? NC the week after that for a site visit.? Have to finish offloading my 16' trailer this weekend to haul to NM for hopefully the last trip to finish cleaning out the house there for sale.? ?Moved a good thousand pounds tonight.? About 400# of lead bars,? couple Welch vacuum pumps,? 300 or so # of copper wire,? etc.??

Ironically I'll prolly leave about 40sf of 1/4" diamond plate I just hauled here on and take it back there to a buddy in ABQ who has a bunch of recent auction winnings and some flat 1/4" plate,? etc I'll pick up.??

And trying to clean up and install barrels in a few old S&W model 10 38spl, and try to machine threads on a test 30cal barrel for a muzzle brake trial.?



On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 10:40 PM Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:

Nick,

What filters do you have? Did you make a carrier?

Dud

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Andrews
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 7:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

?

Nice!? ?I'll try to see if my little pump can pull through both of mine this weekend to run side by side for comparison.?

?

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 8:48 PM Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:

Geo,

My Chinese filters arrived today. I now have the Chinese PTFE 47 mm? and the Hi-Q FP5211-47 and FPAE-47.? I¡¯ll do some testing to see which has better tails and longevity once I get the pump routed outside (too noisy in here).

Dud

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 4:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

?

as predicted, my China air filters flew over my house in an airplane fro New Jersy to Kansas Coty MO, which is 250 miles WEST of me. That's the second time it flew over my house this week.?

Next, if it follows past experiences it wil make 2 stops in St. Louis, which is EAST of me, one stop in Hazelwood MO, and finally to my local post office. Unless it is forwarded to another person's address in Hazelwood, OH WAIT!. The mother-daughter team at the Hazelwood distribution got caught doing that and are oin federal prison now.....

Maybe with luck it will be here mid July.

Remember it took only 6 days from date of order to arriving in USA.

A couple of months ago I was sweating an important delivery that was sent from China by boat! Took about 20 days in all, including the stateside built-in custom delays and all.

Geo


Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

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Nick,

What filters do you have? Did you make a carrier?

Dud

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Andrews
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 7:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

?

Nice!? ?I'll try to see if my little pump can pull through both of mine this weekend to run side by side for comparison.?

?

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 8:48 PM Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:

Geo,

My Chinese filters arrived today. I now have the Chinese PTFE 47 mm? and the Hi-Q FP5211-47 and FPAE-47.? I¡¯ll do some testing to see which has better tails and longevity once I get the pump routed outside (too noisy in here).

Dud

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 4:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

?

as predicted, my China air filters flew over my house in an airplane fro New Jersy to Kansas Coty MO, which is 250 miles WEST of me. That's the second time it flew over my house this week.?

Next, if it follows past experiences it wil make 2 stops in St. Louis, which is EAST of me, one stop in Hazelwood MO, and finally to my local post office. Unless it is forwarded to another person's address in Hazelwood, OH WAIT!. The mother-daughter team at the Hazelwood distribution got caught doing that and are oin federal prison now.....

Maybe with luck it will be here mid July.

Remember it took only 6 days from date of order to arriving in USA.

A couple of months ago I was sweating an important delivery that was sent from China by boat! Took about 20 days in all, including the stateside built-in custom delays and all.

Geo


Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

Nice!? ?I'll try to see if my little pump can pull through both of mine this weekend to run side by side for comparison.?


On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 8:48 PM Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:

Geo,

My Chinese filters arrived today. I now have the Chinese PTFE 47 mm? and the Hi-Q FP5211-47 and FPAE-47.? I¡¯ll do some testing to see which has better tails and longevity once I get the pump routed outside (too noisy in here).

Dud

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 4:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

?

as predicted, my China air filters flew over my house in an airplane fro New Jersy to Kansas Coty MO, which is 250 miles WEST of me. That's the second time it flew over my house this week.?

Next, if it follows past experiences it wil make 2 stops in St. Louis, which is EAST of me, one stop in Hazelwood MO, and finally to my local post office. Unless it is forwarded to another person's address in Hazelwood, OH WAIT!. The mother-daughter team at the Hazelwood distribution got caught doing that and are oin federal prison now.....

Maybe with luck it will be here mid July.

Remember it took only 6 days from date of order to arriving in USA.

A couple of months ago I was sweating an important delivery that was sent from China by boat! Took about 20 days in all, including the stateside built-in custom delays and all.

Geo


Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

GREAT, DUD!

i'll probably be home bound for about a week, maybe I can get mine set up downstairs too.

Geo

----- Original Message -----
From: Dude <dfemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 21:48:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

Geo,

My Chinese filters arrived
today. I now have the Chinese PTFE 47 mm? and the Hi-Q FP5211-47 and FPAE-47.? I¡¯ll
do some testing to see which has better tails and longevity once I get the pump
routed outside (too noisy in here).

Dud

?

From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 4:04
PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta
particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

?

as predicted, my China air filters flew over my house in an airplane
fro New Jersy to Kansas Coty MO, which is 250 miles WEST of me. That's the
second time it flew over my house this week.?


Next, if it follows past experiences it wil make 2 stops in St. Louis, which is
EAST of me, one stop in Hazelwood MO, and finally to my local post office.
Unless it is forwarded to another person's address in Hazelwood, OH WAIT!. The
mother-daughter team at the Hazelwood distribution got caught doing that and
are oin federal prison now.....


Maybe with luck it will be here mid July.


Remember it took only 6 days from date of order to arriving in USA.


A couple of months ago I was sweating an important delivery that was sent from
China by boat! Took about 20 days in all, including the stateside built-in
custom delays and all.


Geo







Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

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Geo,

My Chinese filters arrived today. I now have the Chinese PTFE 47 mm? and the Hi-Q FP5211-47 and FPAE-47.? I¡¯ll do some testing to see which has better tails and longevity once I get the pump routed outside (too noisy in here).

Dud

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 4:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

?

as predicted, my China air filters flew over my house in an airplane fro New Jersy to Kansas Coty MO, which is 250 miles WEST of me. That's the second time it flew over my house this week.?

Next, if it follows past experiences it wil make 2 stops in St. Louis, which is EAST of me, one stop in Hazelwood MO, and finally to my local post office. Unless it is forwarded to another person's address in Hazelwood, OH WAIT!. The mother-daughter team at the Hazelwood distribution got caught doing that and are oin federal prison now.....

Maybe with luck it will be here mid July.

Remember it took only 6 days from date of order to arriving in USA.

A couple of months ago I was sweating an important delivery that was sent from China by boat! Took about 20 days in all, including the stateside built-in custom delays and all.

Geo


Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

as predicted, my China air filters flew over my house in an airplane fro New Jersy to Kansas Coty MO, which is 250 miles WEST of me. That's the second time it flew over my house this week.?

Next, if it follows past experiences it wil make 2 stops in St. Louis, which is EAST of me, one stop in Hazelwood MO, and finally to my local post office. Unless it is forwarded to another person's address in Hazelwood, OH WAIT!. The mother-daughter team at the Hazelwood distribution got caught doing that and are oin federal prison now.....

Maybe with luck it will be here mid July.

Remember it took only 6 days from date of order to arriving in USA.

A couple of months ago I was sweating an important delivery that was sent from China by boat! Took about 20 days in all, including the stateside built-in custom delays and all.

Geo


Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

That's that govt efficiency we keep hearing about...


On Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:23 AM Geo Dowell <GEOelectronics@...> wrote:
sure enough, my China air filters are in New Jersey today. Wondering ho9w much fuel was wasted just for that leg of the journey?

Geo


Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 
Edited

sure enough, my China air filters are in New Jersey today. Wondering how much fuel was wasted just for that leg of the journey?

Geo


Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

No not here yet, but clearing customs is typically the big delay. Now it willo go from California to New Jersey, o9r some other hub and bounce back and forth across Missouri before landing in St. Louis. From there it and still be 3 to 6 days before I get it.

No wonder thoe cost o9f postage will go up on Jily 10th, with several more "uncomfortable"n i8ncrease to follow.

Geo

----- Original Message -----
From: Dude <dfemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 11:58:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

Did you receive yours yet?
Nothing here

Dud

?

From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022
6:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta
particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

?

From time of order of those Chinese filters to clearing US customs was
only 6 days by SpeedPac mail.


Geo







Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

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Did you receive yours yet? Nothing here

Dud

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 6:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

?

From time of order of those Chinese filters to clearing US customs was only 6 days by SpeedPac mail.

Geo


Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

Geo, that's not terrible at all.? The package from you arrived yesterday.? I didn't open the tin last night.? I want to do it in a less dusty area with gloves to try and prevent contamination of the material. I think my punch set goes to about 1.25", not sure of the width of that material yet.? I haven't checked yet but I am assuming the sensor heads will accept a double layer of cardstock with the filter sammiched between.?

Really trying to get the trailer cleaned off to do another round of junk hauling!? I only have this week and weekend as I am flying to Lexington Monday-Wed, then driving to NM on Saturday the 2nd.? That'll only be another $600+ for fuel at least plus around $200 to drive from Las Cruces to ABQ and back on Thursday the 7th to get my LN2 dewar and other auction goodies from my buddy there.? So time is a little limited right now.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 8:14 AM Geo Dowell <GEOelectronics@...> wrote:
From time of order of those Chinese filters to clearing US customs was only 6 days by SpeedPac mail.

Geo


Re: FOCUS: Air Filters for Radiation Detection

 

From time of order of those Chinese filters to clearing US customs was only 6 days by SpeedPac mail.

Geo


Re: Lab Impex units

 

Man, these labs have some serious money!

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 10:46 AM Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:

Retail as I remember was $17,000

Dud

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 7:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. Lab Impex units

?

Only odd thing is that it did not come with the neckdown adapter my other one came with.? No biggie.

?

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:36 AM Nick Andrews via <nickjandrews=[email protected]> wrote:

Number 2 arrived at the office and was waiting for me this morning!? So the seller on ebay came through at a cheaper price off-ebay system.? $270+shipping+BS tax, not bad considering CHP Consultants is selling these for $5k.? I wonder what the retail price is.? We should ask Jeff.


Re: Lab Impex units

 

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Retail as I remember was $17,000

Dud

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 7:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. Lab Impex units

?

Only odd thing is that it did not come with the neckdown adapter my other one came with.? No biggie.

?

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:36 AM Nick Andrews via <nickjandrews=[email protected]> wrote:

Number 2 arrived at the office and was waiting for me this morning!? So the seller on ebay came through at a cheaper price off-ebay system.? $270+shipping+BS tax, not bad considering CHP Consultants is selling these for $5k.? I wonder what the retail price is.? We should ask Jeff.


Re: Lab Impex units

 

Only odd thing is that it did not come with the neckdown adapter my other one came with.? No biggie.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:36 AM Nick Andrews via <nickjandrews=[email protected]> wrote:
Number 2 arrived at the office and was waiting for me this morning!? So the seller on ebay came through at a cheaper price off-ebay system.? $270+shipping+BS tax, not bad considering CHP Consultants is selling these for $5k.? I wonder what the retail price is.? We should ask Jeff.


Lab Impex units

 

Number 2 arrived at the office and was waiting for me this morning!? So the seller on ebay came through at a cheaper price off-ebay system.? $270+shipping+BS tax, not bad considering CHP Consultants is selling these for $5k.? I wonder what the retail price is.? We should ask Jeff.


Re: FOCUS: Vacuum Chambers for nuclear particle identification and counting,

 

Thanks for the Ortec 807 chamber manual. It's in the archives but needed to be in this FOUCUS thread.

Geo

----- Original Message -----
From: Dude <dfemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:49:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Vacuum Chambers for nuclear particle identification and counting,

Geo,

Here¡¯s the manual for that
vacuum chamber. They still sell them

Dud

?

From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 2:31
PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Alpha and Beta particle
nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Vacuum Chambers for nuclear particle
identification and counting,

?

Pictures of high school and college physics class demonstration vacuum
chambers.


These are simple enough to make at home, high vacuum is not needed> The
gaskets are simple black rubber, the container looks like a soup pot from a
steam table.



Platforms hold the samples in the right orientation by clamping on those
vertical rods.












Re: FOCUS: Vacuum Chambers for nuclear particle identification and counting,

 

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Geo,

Here¡¯s the manual for that vacuum chamber. They still sell them

Dud

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 2:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. FOCUS: Vacuum Chambers for nuclear particle identification and counting,

?

Pictures of high school and college physics class demonstration vacuum chambers.

These are simple enough to make at home, high vacuum is not needed> The gaskets are simple black rubber, the container looks like a soup pot from a steam table.


Platforms hold the samples in the right orientation by clamping on those vertical rods.
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