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50 Years of the Cleveland Central Bulletin
Hi, I'm new to AAHistoryLovers @groups.io. Glad to be here. A while back, I was doing some research regarding a section in the book, Dr. Bob & the Good Oltimers. I reached out to the Cleveland District Office and they sent me their Cleveland Central Bulletin. Not just the issue I was looking for, but the first 50 years of the bulletin! It’s a 4,838 page PDF document and about 340 MB in size. Can I post this on the site, for those who may be interested in this history? Or should I send it to you for download? Currently it's accessible through a Google file link. Because of the size, it won't let you preview it, but it will let you download the pdf easily. [Moderator comment: the answer, unfortunately, is no because the Cleveland central office has asked us not to post the PDF because they make money by selling copies for a few dollars on CD and it is a vital stream of income for them. If we post the file then people can get it here for free and have no need to get it from them. So no, we instead encourage people to buy it if they want a copy and support the Cleveland central office at aacle.org -Thom R.] Please let me know if you think members on AAHistoryLovers @groups.io would be interested. Best, Ana ("AdeM") -- Best, AdeM
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The Growing In Undersatnding group are starting a new cycle of Reading "Writing the Big Book" on Thursday 11th, we read a Chapter every week and then have Q&A with Bill Schaberg 11:30 AM (LA) / 2:30 PM (NY) / 7:30 PM (UK) login: 891 7799 2594 password: WTBB
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Sequence of AA early AA meetings
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I understand that the first meeting in NYC met at several locations” 182 Clinton Street, Brooklyn Hts, NY Then at; Hank Parkhurst’s house in NJ Then at; Bob and Marguarite Volentine’s house – also in NJ Also, at Bet Taylor’s house at interim Then at Steinway Hall. Question: Were these four meeting locations considered the First AA Group, albeit with different locations” If so, would that make the Akron meetings at T, Henry and Clarace Williams house; then Dr Bob’s house; then Kings School be considered the second AA group? Or is there a better configuration of order of sequence? Thanks in advance. Bob S **** From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of william schaberg Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 11:15 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Sept 39 meetings?? Gene... These were not so much “new” meetings as extensions of what had been going on already in NY/NJ AA. Bill and Lois had to vacate their Brooklyn home on April 26, 1939 and they were basically homeless for the next two years. Without the “home base” at 182 Clinton Street, meetings moved to Hank Parkhurst’s house in Montclair and then – when Hank and Kathleen first split up in June, 1939 – to Bob and Marguarite Volentine’s house – also in New Jersey. There are several references in Lois’s 1939 diary to Sunday meetings at the Parkhurst’s house and to Tuesday meetings in New York City – which seemed to have been held, at first, in Bert Taylor’s apartment on 72nd Street and then, shortly after that (because of the size of the group?), at Steinway Hall in mid-town. NOTE that Lois’ count included wives who regularly attended meetings with their husbands in those days. -- Bob S
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File /Historical and Local Pamphlets/The special work of the Charles B. Towns Hospital and its ethical relations with the medical profession.pdf uploaded
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The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /Historical and Local Pamphlets/The special work of the Charles B. Towns Hospital and its ethical relations with the medical profession.pdf By: Thom R. <thomr021092@...> Description: "The special work of the Charles B. Towns Hospital and its ethical relations with the medical profession" - A Charles B. Towns Hospital promotional/informational pamphlet. Original source: https://collections.nlm.nih.gov/ext/kirtasbse/101556336/PDF/101556336.pdf
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Seaman Who Drink pamphlet circa 1946
If there is a direct way to upload files someone help me learn. The 5 steps mentioned in the other post may be part of the story that precedes it rather than a rewrite of the steps which appear as all 12 Steps later in the pamphlet. Some have asserted Bill supported revising the steps by this example, the argument looks weak in context. Open to discussion among those who have studied our history. Roger Wheatley [Moderator comment: this is a great way to upload files for now because the message attached explains everything. It's perfect. If something is uploaded this way that should end up in the file section I will place it there along with the message as it's description. Thank you! -Thom]
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Seaman's Club Finances
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The daily featured speaker on Recovery Speakers July 26 was Bernard Smith at the 1965 International. At 22:20 he says they had too little money to open a Seaman’s Club which was sorely needed. He says they had to have handouts from the Better Heels trustees. Since it is audio I am not sure if that spelling is correct. Does anyone know anything about this? The 34 th Street club later became the Seaman’s Club then the Helmsman’s Club. I am interested in information on the genesis of the Seaman's Club and the interest of the Alcoholic Foundation and funding questions and/or relationships with other organizations during this period is fascinating.
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General Service Conference 1952
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Since I did not know if you this document, I also sent the link and the PDF. https://silkworth.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/AA-General-Service-Conference-Jun-1952.pdf
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General Service Conference 1951
One more in case it is not in the archives. https://silkworth.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Conference-Report-Jun-1951.pdf
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Could someone confirm the date of next “Exploring the Big Book One Chapter" at a Time please and thanks!
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Our second presentation on the Big Book is coming up soon. This time we will be doing the Doctor’s Opinion. These presentations are rich in historical value and add a lot of depth and understanding.
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What is documented regarding Bill W's 1929 golf career?
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Page 3, paragraph 3 "In 1929 I contracted golf fever. We went at once to the country, my wife to applaud while I started out to overtake Walter Hagen." Is there documentation of tournaments he played in? His scores? Hagen was a professional. Was Bill or did he compete as an amateur? Any winnings? Were the "fat check"s which his banker watched with amused skepticism his winnings or his expenses? Have references to him been found in histories of various golf clubs? How long did his attempt last? Surely he must have golfed for some time before. Did he continue to play golf in later years?
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Hello all Page 2 of Bill's Story ... 'for had not the men of my battery given me a special token of appreciation?' Do we know what the special token of appreciation was? Raj UK
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Moral Psychology
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Several months ago I read in William Schaberg's "Writing The Big Book" (pg. 139) what Dr Silkworth had meant, and also examined in detail, what moral psychology is. Moral psychology is mentioned only once in our book, pg. xxvii, (forth edition) and I often pondered what Dr Silkworth meant. For amplification I also read Silkworth's 1937 paper "Reclamation of the Alcoholic" (2 years before the Big Book was published!). I found the paper dry and too clinical but my imagination was fired!. Had I been one of New York's' atheists or agnostics members in early AA, I would have shouted this theory of how to recover from the roof tops! Especially to all who had problems with the spirituality of the program. I think Hank Parkhurst may have, but is there any source of information that points to this speculation?
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On on the AAHL FB group on May 29, 2021 Jim W posted an image of a 1921 column written by Dr. Frank Crane which was the basis for the classic, "Just for Today" which has circulated far and wide without credit to Dr. Crane. Today I wanted to share that information in a group so I did a little googling to try to find out more about Dr. Crane. I didn't dream that he was a prolific author with a newspaper readership of 5 million people. He published numerous books including a 10 volume set with an essay for every day of the year. When he died in 1928 he merited a page 25 New York Times obituary. I wonder if other nuggets of Dr. Crane's approach to life anonymously made it into the rooms one way or another. Here is the text of the obituary. DR. FRANK CRANE, NOTED WRITER, DIES [Published: November 7, 1928 Copyright ? The New York Times] The End Comes Suddenly at Nice, France, on a Trip Around the World." CLERGYMAN FOR 25 YEARS Author of Many Books- His Articles Reached Several Millions of Readers MALDEN, Massachusetts, Nov. 6, 1827 -The death of Dr. Frank Crane, writer, in Nice, France, was announced in a cablegram received here today by his nephew. Dr. Henry H. Crane of this city. Death came suddenly last night. Dr. Henry Crane said the body would be cremated and the ashes brought to this country on a ship scheduled to arrive on Nov. 14. Ordained to the Methodist Episcopal ministry in 1882, Dr. Crane turned to journalism in 1909 and reached through magazines and newspaper a vast audience through out the country. His message always was one of uprightness of living, sincerity of thinking and “sweet reasonableness.” Among the churches he served during a more than twenty-five years in the ministry were Trinity and Hyde Park Methodist Episcopal in Chicago, He was there from 1896 to 1903. He served the the Union Congregational Church In Worcester, Mass from 1904 to 1909 A Liberal In Religion Dr. Crane in his later years believed himself to be as thorough a Christian as any one, even though he considered the dogmas and creeds of the churches to be of little or no consequence. If you should ask me," he wrote, "whether I am a Trinitarian or a Unitarian, a Catholic or Protestant, Fundamentalist. or Modernist, Methodist or Baptist you might as well and if I am Guelph or a Ghibelline. He was born at Urbana, Ill., on May 12, 1861, the son of James L and Elizabeth Mayo Crane. His early early education, was in the schools of that city. After he bad served in the ministry for several years he attended Illinois Wesleyan University receiving the degrees of Bachelor of of Philosophy in 1892. Nebraska Wesleyan conferred upon him in 1894 the degree of Doctor of Divinity. In 1910, when Dr. Crane was associated with The New York Globe, Mauice Maeterlinck, the Belgian poet and philosopher said of him: “The essays of Dr. Crane must have accomplished an immense good. I wish that they might be translated into all languages and circulated everywhere.” It has been said that Dr. Crane’s little “sermons” have been printed and widely circulated in eighteen countries and that he had 5,000,000 daily readers. In 1888 Dr. Crane married Miss Ellie C. Stickle of Hillsboro, Ill. He had a son James L. Crane, former husband of Alice Brady, the actress and a daughter, Mrs. Alfred E. Drake of 39 East Seventy-ninth Street of this city. In recent years he had a home in Hollywood, Cal. He has resided n several places in this country and in France and England during his may years of writing. Books He Wrote. He had been the editor of Current Opinion and was the author of may books, one of which, “The Ten Commandments which has just been published.His other works were "The Religion of Tomorrow” “Vision." "The Song of the Infinite” “Human Confession” "God and Democracy”, Lame and Lovely" “Footnotes to Life,” “War and World Government”,"Adventures In Common Sense," "Four Hundred Essays" (in 10 volumes) The Crane Classics" and Everyday Wisdom." "Why I am a Christian," he said, was his only autobiographical work, a philosophical discussion of his own experience in life. Dr. Cra
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Hello Everyone, please come join us and experience these wonderful and inspiring presentations. The 1940’ was a incredible time for Alcoholics Anonymous. We will be covering a great deal of this timeline. Hope to see you there. Warm Regards, Al J
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Bill W and Pierce Governor Company
Although mostly unknown by many Indiana AA’s, Bill Wilson was a director of a factory in Anderson Indiana called Pierce Governor Company in 1938. I believe you will find the attached information of interest. Research for this was done by Archives Chairperson, Area 22, Indiana: Bruce C. Bob S Virus-free. www.avg.com -- Bob S
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Did Bill W come up with the term "King Alcohol" or is there more history behing the term?
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A sponsee asked me this great question. I checked our site found - nothing, silkworth - nothing other sites nothing.. So I ask the experts.... Did Bill W come up with the term "King Alcohol" or is there more history behing the term? -- SW John
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Hello Everyone. We had some problems with Zoom so we switched our codes and passwords. Enclosed are two of the flyers. In the future all history flyers will have the same code and password in case of any Mixups. Best Regards, Al
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Have we anyone able to tell us more about the ideas of Hank P's prominent Chicago physician regarding pressure of the spinal fluid, their history and validity?
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On page 140 paragraph 2 Hank P wrote "I well remember the shock I received when a prominent doctor in Chicago told me of cases where pressure of the spinal fluid actually ruptured the brain." Do we have anyone with knowledge of medicine and/or medical history who can tell us more about this spinal fluid pressure theory?
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