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Tradition 3 - What was his addiction?

James Ivey #1168 开云体育 In the 12&12, Tradition 3, page 142 it says: “But,” he asked, “will you let me join your group? Since I am the victim of another addiction even worse stigmatized than alcoholism, you may not want me among you. Or will you?” What was his other addiction? James in Dallas
Mark Everett All Messages By This Member #1169 开云体育 Good morning continued –I have a definitive source of my earlier comment… ? Now I know where I read it.? Our Great Responsibility – a great book from GSO Archives where audio tapes of Bill’s talks at the General Service Conference were painstakingly transcribed and put into this book – on page 198, 8 lines from the top, in a transcribed talk from the 1968 General Service Conference, Bill tells us the other issue was that the person was a sex deviant. I hope this helps a bit. ? Mark ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of James Ivey Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 2:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Tradition 3 - What was his addiction? ? In the 12&12, Tradition 3, page 142 it says: “But,” he asked, “will you let me join your group? Since I am the victim of another addiction even worse stigmatized than alcoholism, you may not want me among you. Or will you?” What was his other addiction? James in Dallas
Mark Everett All Messages By This Member #1170 开云体育 Good Morning, ? I have a note I wrote in my Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions that “In 1968, at the General Service Conference, Bill told the story of that person being a sexual deviant”.? Plus, ?from Dr Bob and the Good Oldtimers, it is written that Dr. Bob was “the groups oldest member”.? I have no idea as to what particular sexual deviation that might have been. If I come across any further clarification of Bill’s words in my notes I’ll post it to the group.? Maybe this is enough for some other member to post that information before I finally locate it in my collection of information sources. ? Mark ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of James Ivey Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 2:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Tradition 3 - What was his addiction? ? In the 12&12, Tradition 3, page 142 it says: “But,” he asked, “will you let me join your group? Since I am the victim of another addiction even worse stigmatized than alcoholism, you may not want me among you. Or will you?” What was his other addiction? James in Dallas
[email protected] All Messages By This Member #1171 Edited He was gay.?
Adam Richmond All Messages By This Member #1173 That was Barry L. He was gay and clearly full of self hatred at that time. He went on to author Living Sober and play a leading role in leading the way for gay and lesbian acceptance in Alcoholics Anomymous.? Here's a link to his talk at the 1985 Montreal conference.? . Barry L.'s role in A.A. is detailed in the excellent book,?The History of Gay People in Alcoholics Anonymous:? From the Beginning, by Audrey Borden. Copies of her book are very expensive and can be found on Amazon.com. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Thu, Mar 31, 2022, 5:34 PM James Ivey <jamesiv5@...> wrote: In the 12&12, Tradition 3, page 142 it says: “But,” he asked, “will you let me join your group? Since I am the victim of another addiction even worse stigmatized than alcoholism, you may not want me among you. Or will you?” What was his other addiction? James in Dallas
James Ivey #1174 开云体育 Thanks everyone for your replies. But I am a little disappointed only because "sexual deviant" is pretty non-specific. Leaves a lot of wiggle room, so to speak. I've listened to the 1985 Barry Leach audio where he includes audio of Bill Wilson's talk about Tradition 3, and neither got very specific about it. Oh well. One of those little AA mysteries I guess. James in Dallas On 4/1/2022 9:59 AM, Mark Everett wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text Good morning continued –I have a definitive source of my earlier comment… ? Now I know where I read it.? Our Great Responsibility – a great book from GSO Archives where audio tapes of Bill’s talks at the General Service Conference were painstakingly transcribed and put into this book – on page 198, 8 lines from the top, in a transcribed talk from the 1968 General Service Conference, Bill tells us the other issue was that the person was a sex deviant. I hope this helps a bit. ? Mark ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of James Ivey Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 2:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Tradition 3 - What was his addiction? ? In the 12&12, Tradition 3, page 142 it says: “But,” he asked, “will you let me join your group? Since I am the victim of another addiction even worse stigmatized than alcoholism, you may not want me among you. Or will you?” What was his other addiction? James in Dallas
[email protected] All Messages By This Member #1175 Just to be clear, Barry L tells the story in that talk, but I don't believe he was that newcomer at the door in tradition 3. He got sober in 1945, that newcomer arrived at the door in "year 2"

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