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Specific Origin of the 4th Step Inventory Format

 

I was wondering if anyone had done research and had any information on the actual origin of the 4th step format Bill uses in the Big Book?? i.e. including resentments, fears, and sex conduct, and the columnation of the information as it shows in the Mr Brown example.? It would stand to reason it might have an Oxford Group origin, but I have never seen anything this specific when reviewing Oxford Group material.? Any help would be appreciated.

Brian Koch


General Service Conference 1952

 

A very Good Morning from a sizzling day of Summer in Portugal!

Does this do for the purpose that you suggested?

Serenas 24 horas,

Carlos D





General Service Conference 1952

 

Since I did not know if you this document, I also sent the link and the PDF.



General Service Conference 1951

 

One more in case it is not in the archives.



Re: Seaman's Club Finances

 

Looking at the document, ¡°Conference Highlights¡±, Special Report for the Groups on the Third General Service Conference of A.A., New York, NY * April 22-26, 1953, page 21 - Bill Comments on the ¡°Variations in Form of the Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions¡± - Something I recommend that every one interested in this matter should read, in te sixth of paragraph of that page one can read and I transcribe:

¡°Bill told of his surprise when he was presented with a proposed draft of revised Steps to be used in working with seaman who, he has been assured, ¡°we¡¯re not going to take the Twelve Steps the way they are written.¡± Examining the ¡°revision¡±, he was amazed to note that they corresponded, number for number, with the six steps in the original A.A. word-of-mouth program!¡±

It would be interesting to see how those steps were worded and how long were they used by that important segment of AA, the seamen as some of them carried the A.A.?message far and wide.

[Moderator comment: Do we even have a copy of this document on our archives already and if not, would you please consider scanning it to PDF and uploading it? It would be really appreciated. -Thom]


Seaman's Club Finances

 

The daily featured speaker on Recovery Speakers July 26 was Bernard Smith at the 1965 International. At 22:20 he says they had too little money to open a Seaman¡¯s Club which was sorely needed.? He says they had to have handouts from the Better Heels trustees. Since it is audio I am not sure if that spelling is correct.? Does anyone know anything about this?? The 34th Street club later became the Seaman¡¯s Club then the Helmsman¡¯s Club.

I am interested in information on the genesis of the Seaman's Club and the interest of the Alcoholic Foundation and funding questions and/or relationships with other organizations during this period is fascinating.


Re: AA Big Book Historical Presentation

 

Is it always the second Sunday of each month or the first?Once a month is not very specific!


Exploring The Big Book Sunday August 14th

 

Our second presentation on the Big Book is coming up soon. This time we will be doing the Doctor¡¯s Opinion. These presentations are rich in historical value and add a lot of depth and understanding.?


What is documented regarding Bill W's 1929 golf career? #billandbob

 

Page 3, paragraph 3 "In 1929 I contracted golf fever. We went at once to the country, my wife to applaud while I started out to overtake Walter Hagen."

Is there documentation of tournaments he played in? His scores? Hagen was a professional. Was Bill or did he compete as an amateur?
Any winnings? Were the "fat check"s which his banker watched with amused skepticism his winnings or his expenses? Have references to him been found in histories of various golf clubs?
How long did his attempt last? Surely he must have golfed for some time before.? Did he continue to play golf in later years?

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Re: Special token of appreciation

 

Photos and approximate inscription text, from Facebook page titled "Wilson-Smith University."

Inscription reads approximately as... ¡°From the Men of Bat C. 66th C.A.C. Chalus France Nov 1918¡±
(From the Men of Battery C. 66th Coast Artillery Corps Chalus ? France November 1918)

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 8:25 AM r j <rajanjaspal@...> wrote:
Hello all

Page 2 of Bill's Story ... 'for had not the men of my battery given me a special token of appreciation?'

Do we know what the special token of appreciation was?

Raj UK_,_._,_
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Re: Special token of appreciation

 

Here are photo's of Bill's special token of appreciation.


Re: Moral Psychology #chat

 

This is Glenn Chesnut's words describing the book he helped Bill Swegan write to tell his story. I did not get this deep understanding the first time i read the book. I did not see his points until Glenn and I discussed the book and his many hours with Bill Swegan in this enlightening work.? I can see the focus on service in Bill's life from the work and from our personal conversations. He continued to pour himself into helping others after military retirement and was also a pioneer in the Employee Assistance Programs including the Department of the Army. He anonymously wrote much literature which I am blessed that he shared with me for the services. I believe Glenn was the first and only person to use the term Lackland-Long Beach model and I wish we had discussed that. I have found no evidence the short lived lay therapy based treatment in Lackland influenced Long Beach in any way. The main similarity seems that sober A.A. members influenced professionals (Dr. West and Dr. Zuska) to establish treatment centers with the 12 steps as the central point.? ??


Re: Special token of appreciation

 

Yes, I?can answer this one: I have seen the special token. It's a ring, a signet ring, from his men.?
I saw it in a glass?case, upstairs, in the little house on the edge of the village green in
?East Dorset, Vermont, where Bill grew up.

a.


On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 8:25 AM r j <rajanjaspal@...> wrote:
Hello all

Page 2 of Bill's Story ... 'for had not the men of my battery given me a special token of appreciation?'

Do we know what the special token of appreciation was?

Raj UK


Special token of appreciation

r j
 

Hello all

Page 2 of Bill's Story ... 'for had not the men of my battery given me a special token of appreciation?'

Do we know what the special token of appreciation was?

Raj UK


Re: Moral Psychology #chat

 

JIM BURWELL
THE AGNOSTIC & AUTHOR OF "THE VICIOUS CYCLE"*
*Which first appeared in the second edition of the personal stories and continues to appear in the AA Big Book.
By Ron Long
As a former atheist, when I initially came into Alcoholics Anonymous I reacted to use of the word ¡°God¡± with an attitude of contempt prior to investigation. Thank God I stayed sober long enough to investigate the matter. As a result, I am a recovered atheist in my 19th year of sobriety. I owe a world of gratitude to Jim Burwell, who helped pave the way for alcoholics like me.
Jim Burwell¡¯s influence on Bill Wilson in the writing of the Big Book was described by Wilson himself in Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age. Jim militantly opposed the usage of the word ¡°God¡± in consistent adherence to his agnostic philosophy. A compromise was negotiated between Wilson and Burwell with the literary employment of such terms as ¡°power greater than ourselves."
Jim Burwell expressed in a 1957 recording at Sacramento that his agnostic stance had mellowed out over the years. However, his early militancy was a perhaps spiritual wonder! The compromise between him and Bill Wilson established an enduring principle in Alcoholics Anonymous, that of flexibility and acceptance of differing viewpoints on spiritual matters. That
vital principle paved the way for hope for all suffering alcoholics seeking sobriety and recovery from a seemingly hopeless state of body and mind. One¡¯s religious affiliation, or lack of it; one¡¯s philosophical preferences, or none; one¡¯s theistic, or agnostic, or atheistic, or pantheistic, or virtually any relatively held notion or concept of a power greater than ourselves, could bare no relevance on one¡¯s membership the Fellowship of the Spirit. Thanks to Jim Burwell.
Born on March 25, 1898, Jim Burwell lived in San Diego for a number of years, following his initial association with Bill Wilson, Dr. Bob Smith, Bill Dodson, Henry (¡°Hank¡±) Parkhurst and a few others, who comprised a group of sober drunks that a year later would be known as Alcoholics Anonymous. Following his decline on January 8, 1938, to a hard bottom, Jim got sober on June 15, 1938. Jim and Rosa lived at 4193 Georgia Street in San Diego.
Jim was often in a wheelchair and constantly smoked a pipe. AA rooms were always filled with smoke. He was a small man with red hair and weighed about 130 pounds. Jim and Rosa Burwell were involved in service and were elected to many AA positions many times. When not holding any elected positions, they were volunteers in any area of need. They were very active. Jim and Rosa were known as "Book People.¡± If a line was not in the Big Book or AA Literature, they would not use it.
Following a long illness, he was admitted to the Veterans Administration Medical Center, La Jolla, California. He missed those meetings. However, that did not prevent him from being active. Jim started a new meeting there at the VA! The Torrey Pines Thursday Night Discussion Group of Alcoholics Anonymous still meets at 3350 La Jolla Village Drive, Room 2011. Jim Burwell died in the VA on September 8, 1974. He touched the lives of many. He was apparently a human being, capable of being criticized by some and adored by others. He died sober. That is as close to perfection as we will ever achieve.


Re: Moral Psychology #chat

 

William E. Swegan ("Sgt. Bill") was the major spokesman for the psychological wing of early Alcoholics Anonymous-that group within the newborn A.A. movement of the 1930's, 40's and 50's which stressed the psychotherapeutic side of the twelve step program instead of the spiritual side. This book is Swegan's major work, in which he lays out the psychiatric theories which formed the foundation of that variety of A.A. thought. He also talks about his association with Mrs. Marty Mann, Yev Gardner, E. M. Jellinek at the Yale School of Alcohol Studies, Bill Dotson (A.A. No. 3) and Searcy Whaley, in addition to recording his memories of the year he spent observing Sister Ignatia at work at St. Thomas Hospital in Akron. In 1953 Sgt. Bill teamed up with famous American psychiatrist Louis Jolyon "Jolly" West at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, to develop a method of alcoholism treatment (given further development in the mid 1960s by Dr. Joseph J. Zuska and Dick Jewell at Long Beach Naval Station) called the Lackland-Long Beach Model. It became one of the three basic types of A.A.-oriented alcoholism treatment program, along with the Minnesota Model and Sister Ignatia's more spiritually oriented approach. Sgt. Bill does not just talk psychiatric theories in this book. He uses his own life story to show how traumatic loss, poverty, inadequate selfesteem, envy, self-pity and rage can drive children and youths into isolationism, rebellion, self-sabotage, and ultimately the descent into uncontrollable alcoholism or drug addiction. But in his humanistic understanding of the twelve step program he also shows us how to make use of the healing power of the spirit of Love and Service to our fellow human beings to restore ourselves to new life.


Re: Moral Psychology #chat

Joel M
 

Read Silkworth's 1937 paper "Reclamation of the Alcoholic"?

This was Doctor Silkworth's view of why he believed Bill's "drunk squad" was working.

I was just wondering if there were early AA's who joined in NYC (and therefore may have been influenced by Silky), could have utilized "Moral Psychology '', This appeals to the scientific mind and is an easier alternative to a "Power Greater than self".? I know that Hank wrote "The Unbeliever" and that most New York members did not want the program to sound or be too religious.

Personally, I find "Moral Psychology" very attractive. I was a hard core atheist but immediately got into helping others in the fall of 1980. I finally went to a Joe and Charlie weekend after 12 years of untreated alcoholism. On the bottom of page 14, I learned that I can treat my spiritual malady and can grow spiritually by "work and self sacrifice for others". Silky labeled AA as an "altruistic moment". It was this helping other drunks and getting out of self? that got me sober.? Eventually, as a result of thoroughly following our path, I found a higher power that I am comfortable with.

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Re: AA Big Book Historical Presentation

 


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On Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 10:33 PM, Rita Akacich via groups.io <ritaakacich@...> wrote:

Could someone confirm the date of next ¡°Exploring the Big Book One Chapter" at a Time please and thanks!





Re: Obituary for Dr. Frank Crane author of Just for Today

 

There is a little more that I would like to add about Just For Today.

1. Dale Carnegie references Just For Today, credited to Sybil Partridge, in his 1948 book?How to Stop Worrying and Start Living.?He states is was written 36 years ago. (attached is a 1951 )
2. I found sheet music by Sybil Partridge called Just for Today in 1894, but it doesn't read anything like it does in Dale Carnegie's book.? I'm attaching it here as well.
3. The North Hollywood Group meeting list mirrors the Dale Carnegie book.? Both diverge from Dr. Crane's version, but you can see as being adapted from his version. (the end of it is on page 1 of the attachment and the beginning is on the last page - based on the scan)
4. By 1954 Narcotics Anonymous includes a version of Just For Today in their first booklet.? Jimmy K., an AA member who attended the North Hollywood Group, was involved with writing this NA publication.

Here is a web reference to the attribution of this:?


Re: AA Big Book Historical Presentation

 

Could someone confirm the date of next ¡°Exploring the Big Book One Chapter" at a Time please and thanks!