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Converting exterior C194 light bulbs to LED's


 

I want to change out my incandescent bulbs to LED's in my clearance and porch lights, and I suppose the tail lights.? Those are not the C194's.? ?I know it's been done, but not sure if there is anything I should, or should not get.? There are plenty of options on Amazon.

Thanks
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Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida

2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 ltr EcoBoost engine.


 

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Hello Don:

I would suggest new LED fixtures. The direct LED replacement bulbs for incandescent bulbs can be junk, and you still have a failure point in the old sockets. We have replaced all with new LED fixtures and have had only one failure, a red brake light stopped working.

Carl.

On 7/10/2024 5:14 PM, Don DeRyke via groups.io wrote:

I want to change out my incandescent bulbs to LED's in my clearance and porch lights, and I suppose the tail lights.? Those are not the C194's.? ?I know it's been done, but not sure if there is anything I should, or should not get.? There are plenty of options on Amazon.

Thanks
--
Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida

2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 ltr EcoBoost engine.


 

Don, we have replacement led bulb in the original fixtures. At least five years no problems. Sorry I can't tell you where I purchased them. Online somewhere.

John



On July 10, 2024, at 2:52 PM, "Carl via groups.io" <carl.blum@...> wrote:


Hello Don:

I would suggest new LED fixtures. The direct LED replacement bulbs for incandescent bulbs can be junk, and you still have a failure point in the old sockets. We have replaced all with new LED fixtures and have had only one failure, a red brake light stopped working.

Carl.

On 7/10/2024 5:14 PM, Don DeRyke via wrote:
I want to change out my incandescent bulbs to LED's in my clearance and porch lights, and I suppose the tail lights.? Those are not the C194's.? ?I know it's been done, but not sure if there is anything I should, or should not get.? There are plenty of options on Amazon.

Thanks
--
Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida

2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 ltr EcoBoost engine.


 

I think you're right Carl.? The more I look at it, the cost of LED's adds up, with the various ones required.? And the new fixtures are pretty reasonable.? And as you point out, they are designed around the LED's.? I would like to have the same clearance lights as I do now, for shape purposes, but they are far more expensive than others that will do the job.
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Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida

2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 liter EcoBoost engine.


 

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Hello Don:

I bought my clearance lights in interior lights from Northern. The tail lights, Brake Turn & Running, from Amazon. Matching the shape might be hard.

Carl.

On 7/10/2024 9:12 PM, Don DeRyke via groups.io wrote:

I think you're right Carl.? The more I look at it, the cost of LED's adds up, with the various ones required.? And the new fixtures are pretty reasonable.? And as you point out, they are designed around the LED's.? I would like to have the same clearance lights as I do now, for shape purposes, but they are far more expensive than others that will do the job.
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Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida

2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 liter EcoBoost engine.


 

The way they make an LED cheaply is they put in a lousy heat sink.? That will cause the bulb to get very warm, burn out prematurely, or even cause a fire.

Amazon has a lot of cheap leds that burn out far before they should.? The problem is that you get a bunch of vendors selling $1 and $2 bulbs, the vendors of the quality bulbs leave and sell where there's not so much competition on price.? If you buy a bulb on Amazon, read the 1 star reviews, and if people are complaining about burnt out leds, or leds that catch fire, don't buy that one.

One way to tell that a bulb is good is when they say it handles a voltage far higher than 12v.? A bulb rated at 12 to 30v will last forever.??

A problem you'll run into with leds nowadays is they're all too bright for our campers.? The light fixture is a few feet from your head, not in a ceiling 8 ft up.? You only need about 160 lumens, and all the bulbs I can find are a lot brighter than that.? The only solution is to get a dimmer, and make sure the bulbs are dimmable, since some aren't.? ?The best dimmer solutions are new fixtures with rhe dimmer built in.

New fixtures can have the same problem as bulbs, with bad heat sinks, and leds that burn out or catch fire.? Read the reviews.? Again if it says 12 to 30v it should be good.

Some of the led vendors only sell quality leds? ?m4products.com has lots of good stuff, and you'll notice their prices are higher.


 

Good info Steve.

I agree about the brightness.? My current need is exterior, and brightness is not an issue.? However inside, I'm on my second pair of dimmable fixtures.? The one I have now isn't bad, but it's annoying that I can see the individual LEDs through the lense.? I suppose I could paint it, as some have done.? But this one looks interesting.? I like the dial dimmer control better than holding in a button.? They accept up to 24 volts.



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Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida

2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 liter EcoBoost engine.


 

I have used these on my original light fixtures in my 18 expedition. I did not remove the old switch, just put this beside it downstream of the actual switch.


 

That's a mighty powerful light. It pulls 830 mA and generates 1700 lumins.
My old LED lights were about 1/10th the lumens and that was enough, and they used about 1/7th the amps. That dimmer will definitely be needed.


On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 07:38 AM, Don DeRyke wrote:
Good info Steve.
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I agree about the brightness.? My current need is exterior, and brightness is not an issue.? However inside, I'm on my second pair of dimmable fixtures.? The one I have now isn't bad, but it's annoying that I can see the individual LEDs through the lense.? I suppose I could paint it, as some have done.? But this one looks interesting.? I like the dial dimmer control better than holding in a button.? They accept up to 24 volts.
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Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida

2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 liter EcoBoost engine.


 

I have bought LED from Amazon and didn't get the quality I was hoping for.
Try . Call and they will help you with your decision. They stock far better quality bulbs and fixtures.
I bought bulbs from them five years ago and haven't had any problems ( unlike Amazon ) to replace all of my outside lights
for my Classic 2015.