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Variable speed motors


 

This may be a bit off topic, but I would guess it is applicable for someone wanting to re-motor their lathe.

Have one of those 80s Taiwanese drill presses (Cummins Mack).? Motor HP isn't listed but it's probably 1/2 or 3/4HP.? 100vac single phase.

?

Kind of sick of changing belts and thought one of those variable speed motor conversions would be helpful.? I read a lot about how inexpensive these are, but I'm just not seeing it.

?

I probably have 10 motors lying around the shop, all 110VAC single phase of various sizes and RPMs.? Looked around for something in the 3/4-1hp range in a 3phase motor on Craigslist, Marketplace, ebay, surplus dealers - they don't seem cheap to me.? To get something in the right RPM range (~1700) and standard voltage is at least $100 if not closer to $200.? Add another $100-200 for a VFD and that's not my definition of inexpensive.? New motors are double that.

?

Read about using a treadmill motor, but word seems to have gotten around about those.? They're in the same price range as the 3phase motors, although the controllers seem cheaper.? Buying a couple of random treadmills to hope and get the right size motor that's useable seems like a big PITA and here in rural America, getting rid of the rest of the treadmill without the motor isn't exactly easy or cheap.

Am I looking at the wrong things, or am I just a cheapskate?? Maybe both.

I've read it's possible to use a VFD on a single phase motor by bypassing the start capacitor using a start switch to energize it.? Having trouble finding good info on what VFD to use.? I don't really think I need the drill press to reverse, which is one of the downsides of single phase.? Would this be a solution to use the original motor or one of the spares I have lying around?


 

You might want to consider using a 110 volt?.

I use them on my 8520 mill and on my 16" Delta band saw. I also had one on 12x36 lathe.

There are other brushless? explore.

Ralph

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:26?PM chrisser via <chris.kucia=[email protected]> wrote:

This may be a bit off topic, but I would guess it is applicable for someone wanting to re-motor their lathe.

Have one of those 80s Taiwanese drill presses (Cummins Mack).? Motor HP isn't listed but it's probably 1/2 or 3/4HP.? 100vac single phase.

?

Kind of sick of changing belts and thought one of those variable speed motor conversions would be helpful.? I read a lot about how inexpensive these are, but I'm just not seeing it.

?

I probably have 10 motors lying around the shop, all 110VAC single phase of various sizes and RPMs.? Looked around for something in the 3/4-1hp range in a 3phase motor on Craigslist, Marketplace, ebay, surplus dealers - they don't seem cheap to me.? To get something in the right RPM range (~1700) and standard voltage is at least $100 if not closer to $200.? Add another $100-200 for a VFD and that's not my definition of inexpensive.? New motors are double that.

?

Read about using a treadmill motor, but word seems to have gotten around about those.? They're in the same price range as the 3phase motors, although the controllers seem cheaper.? Buying a couple of random treadmills to hope and get the right size motor that's useable seems like a big PITA and here in rural America, getting rid of the rest of the treadmill without the motor isn't exactly easy or cheap.

Am I looking at the wrong things, or am I just a cheapskate?? Maybe both.

I've read it's possible to use a VFD on a single phase motor by bypassing the start capacitor using a start switch to energize it.? Having trouble finding good info on what VFD to use.? I don't really think I need the drill press to reverse, which is one of the downsides of single phase.? Would this be a solution to use the original motor or one of the spares I have lying around?


 

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Dealers Electric sells motor VFD packages but rite now looks like teh cheaper ones are only @ 3rd hp .

When I look for treadmills I ask for the model # of the treadmill , than a google tells me what motor controller & motor the unit has , If it's the right controller that I'm lookin for & tell them that I will take it . My issue is that due to my current disability I have to either bring someone with me or tall them I will need help loading .

animal

On 2/3/24 1:26 PM, chrisser via groups.io wrote:

This may be a bit off topic, but I would guess it is applicable for someone wanting to re-motor their lathe.

Have one of those 80s Taiwanese drill presses (Cummins Mack).? Motor HP isn't listed but it's probably 1/2 or 3/4HP.? 100vac single phase.

?

Kind of sick of changing belts and thought one of those variable speed motor conversions would be helpful.? I read a lot about how inexpensive these are, but I'm just not seeing it.

?

I probably have 10 motors lying around the shop, all 110VAC single phase of various sizes and RPMs.? Looked around for something in the 3/4-1hp range in a 3phase motor on Craigslist, Marketplace, ebay, surplus dealers - they don't seem cheap to me.? To get something in the right RPM range (~1700) and standard voltage is at least $100 if not closer to $200.? Add another $100-200 for a VFD and that's not my definition of inexpensive.? New motors are double that.

?

Read about using a treadmill motor, but word seems to have gotten around about those.? They're in the same price range as the 3phase motors, although the controllers seem cheaper.? Buying a couple of random treadmills to hope and get the right size motor that's useable seems like a big PITA and here in rural America, getting rid of the rest of the treadmill without the motor isn't exactly easy or cheap.

Am I looking at the wrong things, or am I just a cheapskate?? Maybe both.

I've read it's possible to use a VFD on a single phase motor by bypassing the start capacitor using a start switch to energize it.? Having trouble finding good info on what VFD to use.? I don't really think I need the drill press to reverse, which is one of the downsides of single phase.? Would this be a solution to use the original motor or one of the spares I have lying around?


 

Wow.? Thanks Ralph.

Hadn't found those previously.? That seems like a great little package and reasonably priced, even new.

On Saturday, February 3rd, 2024 at 5:19 PM, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:

You might want to consider using a 110 volt .

I use them on my 8520 mill and on my 16" Delta band saw. I also had one on 12x36 lathe.

There are other brushless explore.

Ralph

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:26?PM chrisser via <chris.kucia=[email protected]> wrote:

This may be a bit off topic, but I would guess it is applicable for someone wanting to re-motor their lathe.

Have one of those 80s Taiwanese drill presses (Cummins Mack). Motor HP isn't listed but it's probably 1/2 or 3/4HP. 100vac single phase.

Kind of sick of changing belts and thought one of those variable speed motor conversions would be helpful. I read a lot about how inexpensive these are, but I'm just not seeing it.

I probably have 10 motors lying around the shop, all 110VAC single phase of various sizes and RPMs. Looked around for something in the 3/4-1hp range in a 3phase motor on Craigslist, Marketplace, ebay, surplus dealers - they don't seem cheap to me. To get something in the right RPM range (~1700) and standard voltage is at least $100 if not closer to $200. Add another $100-200 for a VFD and that's not my definition of inexpensive. New motors are double that.

Read about using a treadmill motor, but word seems to have gotten around about those. They're in the same price range as the 3phase motors, although the controllers seem cheaper. Buying a couple of random treadmills to hope and get the right size motor that's useable seems like a big PITA and here in rural America, getting rid of the rest of the treadmill without the motor isn't exactly easy or cheap.

Am I looking at the wrong things, or am I just a cheapskate? Maybe both.

I've read it's possible to use a VFD on a single phase motor by bypassing the start capacitor using a start switch to energize it. Having trouble finding good info on what VFD to use. I don't really think I need the drill press to reverse, which is one of the downsides of single phase. Would this be a solution to use the original motor or one of the spares I have lying around?



 

Was also thinking it wouldn't be a terrible idea to get a foot pedal speed controller and rig that up as an alternate way to control the machine.? Would be kind of cool to be able to vary the speed without having to reach up to a knob.

On Saturday, February 3rd, 2024 at 6:12 PM, chrisser via groups.io <chris.kucia@...> wrote:

Wow.? Thanks Ralph.

Hadn't found those previously.? That seems like a great little package and reasonably priced, even new.

On Saturday, February 3rd, 2024 at 5:19 PM, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
You might want to consider using a 110 volt .

I use them on my 8520 mill and on my 16" Delta band saw. I also had one on 12x36 lathe.

There are other brushless explore.

Ralph

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:26?PM chrisser via <chris.kucia=[email protected]> wrote:

This may be a bit off topic, but I would guess it is applicable for someone wanting to re-motor their lathe.

Have one of those 80s Taiwanese drill presses (Cummins Mack). Motor HP isn't listed but it's probably 1/2 or 3/4HP. 100vac single phase.

Kind of sick of changing belts and thought one of those variable speed motor conversions would be helpful. I read a lot about how inexpensive these are, but I'm just not seeing it.

I probably have 10 motors lying around the shop, all 110VAC single phase of various sizes and RPMs. Looked around for something in the 3/4-1hp range in a 3phase motor on Craigslist, Marketplace, ebay, surplus dealers - they don't seem cheap to me. To get something in the right RPM range (~1700) and standard voltage is at least $100 if not closer to $200. Add another $100-200 for a VFD and that's not my definition of inexpensive. New motors are double that.

Read about using a treadmill motor, but word seems to have gotten around about those. They're in the same price range as the 3phase motors, although the controllers seem cheaper. Buying a couple of random treadmills to hope and get the right size motor that's useable seems like a big PITA and here in rural America, getting rid of the rest of the treadmill without the motor isn't exactly easy or cheap.

Am I looking at the wrong things, or am I just a cheapskate? Maybe both.

I've read it's possible to use a VFD on a single phase motor by bypassing the start capacitor using a start switch to energize it. Having trouble finding good info on what VFD to use. I don't really think I need the drill press to reverse, which is one of the downsides of single phase. Would this be a solution to use the original motor or one of the spares I have lying around?




 

I agree with others here.

I would look at brushless with the correct control.?
The lathe right has a DC motor but the dat I need new one I will look at brushless as a replacement.??

Doing other type is great if look to tinker with motors.

Myself I just get replacement and get back to running my tools and only replace as need.

Dave?

chrisser 1:26pm? ?
This may be a bit off topic, but I would guess it is applicable for someone wanting to re-motor their lathe.
Have one of those 80s Taiwanese drill presses (Cummins Mack). Motor HP isn't listed but it's probably 1/2 or 3/4HP. 100vac single phase


 

The other part is if replacing a 1725 rpm with new motors turning 6,000 rpm.
You look at doing new belting too.?

There keeping the cost of motors down by turning the motor at high rpm. Great for new equipment saves us money.??

Dave?


 

I use link belts on everything!

The foot pedal works good for my mill and my band saw but didn't work for my lathe so I replaced it with a 20k pot.

Ralph

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 7:14?PM davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
The other part is if replacing a 1725 rpm with new motors turning 6,000 rpm.
You look at doing new belting too.?

There keeping the cost of motors down by turning the motor at high rpm. Great for new equipment saves us money.??

Dave?


 

Things would probably be different if I actually had to buy a treadmill ;-)

Around here (VA beach, VA) they frequently show up at Curb-Mart on trash pick up day. In addition to the motor & controller, there's usually quite a bit of usable steel tubing & other hardware. The seat & seat post from a discarded exercise bike makes the beginning of a nice shop seat for bench work.

Roy


 

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If ya haven't salvaged one before? aside from the motor & motor controller make sure ya keep the choke ( transformer lookin thing ) & the cable that runs from the motor controller up to the console , & the speed sensor at the least . Like Roy says there's some good booty inside of a treadmill . They've appearances have? slowed down quite a? bit in my neck of the woods .

animal

On 2/3/24 6:51 PM, Roy via groups.io wrote:

Things would probably be different if I actually had to buy a treadmill ;-)

Around here (VA beach, VA) they frequently show up at Curb-Mart on trash pick up day. In addition to the motor & controller, there's usually quite a bit of usable steel tubing & other hardware. The seat & seat post from a discarded exercise bike makes the beginning of a nice shop seat for bench work.

Roy


 

Went down the rabbit hole on these sewing machine motors.

I'm liking them.

I found some sites that show how to add a potentiometer to create a speed control dial to replace the hall effect sensor used in the treadle control.? Some conflicting info, but I think I have a couple of combinations of pots and resistors that should work - it's pushing the limits of my electronic competence.

Also found a couple of ways around the clunky reverse control, not that I expect to need it on the drill press, but if I can get the RPMs down low enough, it might be nice to have it as an option for tapping, although I've always preferred being able to feel with a hand tap, even if chucked in the drill press to hold vertical.? Since the motor is three-phase, just swapping two phases and one associated hall effect sensor in the motor will reverse, and there are inexpensive 4-pole drum switches on ebay that are rated to the voltage/current without spending too much cash.? I even found an emergency switch with three poles that would cut the three phases to the motor.

Think I'm going to pick one up in a few weeks and give it a try.? May get another for the 7x lathe - I'm guessing I could sell the original controller board and motor on ebay to close to what the sewing machine motor would cost and gain a little extra power and not have to worry about the control board losing it's smoke sometime down the road.

On Saturday, February 3rd, 2024 at 5:19 PM, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:

You might want to consider using a 110 volt .

I use them on my 8520 mill and on my 16" Delta band saw. I also had one on 12x36 lathe.

There are other brushless explore.

Ralph

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:26?PM chrisser via <chris.kucia=[email protected]> wrote:

This may be a bit off topic, but I would guess it is applicable for someone wanting to re-motor their lathe.

Have one of those 80s Taiwanese drill presses (Cummins Mack). Motor HP isn't listed but it's probably 1/2 or 3/4HP. 100vac single phase.

Kind of sick of changing belts and thought one of those variable speed motor conversions would be helpful. I read a lot about how inexpensive these are, but I'm just not seeing it.

I probably have 10 motors lying around the shop, all 110VAC single phase of various sizes and RPMs. Looked around for something in the 3/4-1hp range in a 3phase motor on Craigslist, Marketplace, ebay, surplus dealers - they don't seem cheap to me. To get something in the right RPM range (~1700) and standard voltage is at least $100 if not closer to $200. Add another $100-200 for a VFD and that's not my definition of inexpensive. New motors are double that.

Read about using a treadmill motor, but word seems to have gotten around about those. They're in the same price range as the 3phase motors, although the controllers seem cheaper. Buying a couple of random treadmills to hope and get the right size motor that's useable seems like a big PITA and here in rural America, getting rid of the rest of the treadmill without the motor isn't exactly easy or cheap.

Am I looking at the wrong things, or am I just a cheapskate? Maybe both.

I've read it's possible to use a VFD on a single phase motor by bypassing the start capacitor using a start switch to energize it. Having trouble finding good info on what VFD to use. I don't really think I need the drill press to reverse, which is one of the downsides of single phase. Would this be a solution to use the original motor or one of the spares I have lying around?



 

I try?sewing machine motors about 1970
Great little motor turns at 15,000 rpm
Great speed control too.
Lacks horse ? power 1/15 hp

Dave?

10:03am???

Went down the rabbit hole on these sewing machine motors


 

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If the motor doesn't get to the low speeds yer after maybe ya can get them if ya keep the multi pulley setup available for threading . Folks have been using these Consew motors for years on the lathes & other shop machines & I can't say I have ever heard a bad review on them for this purpose , One guy had a issue but the vendor made it right & sent him a new motor , but that's about it for bad press that I have seen .

animal

On 2/4/24 10:02 AM, chrisser via groups.io wrote:

Went down the rabbit hole on these sewing machine motors.

I'm liking them.

I found some sites that show how to add a potentiometer to create a speed control dial to replace the hall effect sensor used in the treadle control.? Some conflicting info, but I think I have a couple of combinations of pots and resistors that should work - it's pushing the limits of my electronic competence.

Also found a couple of ways around the clunky reverse control, not that I expect to need it on the drill press, but if I can get the RPMs down low enough, it might be nice to have it as an option for tapping, although I've always preferred being able to feel with a hand tap, even if chucked in the drill press to hold vertical.? Since the motor is three-phase, just swapping two phases and one associated hall effect sensor in the motor will reverse, and there are inexpensive 4-pole drum switches on ebay that are rated to the voltage/current without spending too much cash.? I even found an emergency switch with three poles that would cut the three phases to the motor.

Think I'm going to pick one up in a few weeks and give it a try.? May get another for the 7x lathe - I'm guessing I could sell the original controller board and motor on ebay to close to what the sewing machine motor would cost and gain a little extra power and not have to worry about the control board losing it's smoke sometime down the road.

On Saturday, February 3rd, 2024 at 5:19 PM, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
You might want to consider using a 110 volt .

I use them on my 8520 mill and on my 16" Delta band saw. I also had one on 12x36 lathe.

There are other brushless explore.

Ralph

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:26?PM chrisser via <chris.kucia=[email protected]> wrote:

This may be a bit off topic, but I would guess it is applicable for someone wanting to re-motor their lathe.

Have one of those 80s Taiwanese drill presses (Cummins Mack). Motor HP isn't listed but it's probably 1/2 or 3/4HP. 100vac single phase.

Kind of sick of changing belts and thought one of those variable speed motor conversions would be helpful. I read a lot about how inexpensive these are, but I'm just not seeing it.

I probably have 10 motors lying around the shop, all 110VAC single phase of various sizes and RPMs. Looked around for something in the 3/4-1hp range in a 3phase motor on Craigslist, Marketplace, ebay, surplus dealers - they don't seem cheap to me. To get something in the right RPM range (~1700) and standard voltage is at least $100 if not closer to $200. Add another $100-200 for a VFD and that's not my definition of inexpensive. New motors are double that.

Read about using a treadmill motor, but word seems to have gotten around about those. They're in the same price range as the 3phase motors, although the controllers seem cheaper. Buying a couple of random treadmills to hope and get the right size motor that's useable seems like a big PITA and here in rural America, getting rid of the rest of the treadmill without the motor isn't exactly easy or cheap.

Am I looking at the wrong things, or am I just a cheapskate? Maybe both.

I've read it's possible to use a VFD on a single phase motor by bypassing the start capacitor using a start switch to energize it. Having trouble finding good info on what VFD to use. I don't really think I need the drill press to reverse, which is one of the downsides of single phase. Would this be a solution to use the original motor or one of the spares I have lying around?



 

I think these new industrial motors are a different breed. Amazingly compact and powerful. The package is appears to basically be a VFD and 3 phase motor with positional feedback sensors. The moto



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On Feb 4, 2024, 2:19?PM, davesmith1800 < davesmith1@...> wrote:

I try?sewing machine motors about 1970
Great little motor turns at 15,000 rpm
Great speed control too.
Lacks horse ? power 1/15 hp

Dave?

10:03am???

Went down the rabbit hole on these sewing machine motors


 

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these are way different motors than yer average sewing machine motors . The ones in this thread are servo motors & probably 2-3 times the size of a standard sewing machine motor . I've seen these motors up to 1 hp they may have some that go higher ? here's a tube of a guy that put one on his mini lathe , it's not the best vid , but it's the first one that poped up .

animal

On 2/4/24 11:19 AM, davesmith1800 wrote:

I try?sewing machine motors about 1970
Great little motor turns at 15,000 rpm
Great speed control too.
Lacks horse ? power 1/15 hp

Dave?

10:03am???

Went down the rabbit hole on these sewing machine motors


stan campbell
 
Edited

I have a 3/4 hp sewing machine motor on my Logan 820. (10 x 24)
It is fantastic. Infinite speed control, small, 10 years ago it was $105 and was complete.
I rigged a rod and wingnut on the foot control.
It also has a speed selector and reverse.
Between the Logans gears and its speed control, I can get lots of torque or speed or both.
Sometimes a motor that can stall is a feature, sometimes it's not.
You can choose.
Sewing machines come in all sizes, like lathes.
EDIT, this looks like the motor I have, but not the same vendor.
https://www.ebay.com/p/2115314045?iid=165523723313


 

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You can get those sewing machine motors on Amazon for quite a bit less than that ebay listing.

(Note: Not Prime... shipping is $25 on the one listed but you can find them for less shipping - they always land around $100 total though)

I have one now that I am fitting on one of my X2 mini-mills - if it works as well as I expect the 2nd mill will get one too :)

I don't know others, but the one I linked uses standard Molex 5557 (Computer PCIe power) connectors if you want to make custom wiring or use attachments not included in the kit.

Earlier in this thread someone mentioned the RPM ratings of this motor and claimed the higher RPM is due to losing power at lower RPM, implying these are not a good choice for many applications - that is not true with these motors. These are basically 3-phase motors and the way they change speed is *not* by changing/pulsing voltage. These phase-shift to change speed so that you can keep almost constant torque independent of rotational speed.

Just my $0.02 ;)

-Jay

On 2/4/24 13:02, chrisser via groups.io wrote:
Went down the rabbit hole on these sewing machine motors.

I'm liking them.

I found some sites that show how to add a potentiometer to create a speed control dial to replace the hall effect sensor used in the treadle control.? Some conflicting info, but I think I have a couple of combinations of pots and resistors that should work - it's pushing the limits of my electronic competence.

Also found a couple of ways around the clunky reverse control, not that I expect to need it on the drill press, but if I can get the RPMs down low enough, it might be nice to have it as an option for tapping, although I've always preferred being able to feel with a hand tap, even if chucked in the drill press to hold vertical.? Since the motor is three-phase, just swapping two phases and one associated hall effect sensor in the motor will reverse, and there are inexpensive 4-pole drum switches on ebay that are rated to the voltage/current without spending too much cash.? I even found an emergency switch with three poles that would cut the three phases to the motor.

Think I'm going to pick one up in a few weeks and give it a try.? May get another for the 7x lathe - I'm guessing I could sell the original controller board and motor on ebay to close to what the sewing machine motor would cost and gain a little extra power and not have to worry about the control board losing it's smoke sometime down the road.

On Saturday, February 3rd, 2024 at 5:19 PM, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
You might want to consider using a 110 volt .

I use them on my 8520 mill and on my 16" Delta band saw. I also had one on 12x36 lathe.

There are other brushless explore.

Ralph

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:26?PM chrisser via <chris.kucia=[email protected]> wrote:

This may be a bit off topic, but I would guess it is applicable for someone wanting to re-motor their lathe.

Have one of those 80s Taiwanese drill presses (Cummins Mack). Motor HP isn't listed but it's probably 1/2 or 3/4HP. 100vac single phase.

Kind of sick of changing belts and thought one of those variable speed motor conversions would be helpful. I read a lot about how inexpensive these are, but I'm just not seeing it.

I probably have 10 motors lying around the shop, all 110VAC single phase of various sizes and RPMs. Looked around for something in the 3/4-1hp range in a 3phase motor on Craigslist, Marketplace, ebay, surplus dealers - they don't seem cheap to me. To get something in the right RPM range (~1700) and standard voltage is at least $100 if not closer to $200. Add another $100-200 for a VFD and that's not my definition of inexpensive. New motors are double that.

Read about using a treadmill motor, but word seems to have gotten around about those. They're in the same price range as the 3phase motors, although the controllers seem cheaper. Buying a couple of random treadmills to hope and get the right size motor that's useable seems like a big PITA and here in rural America, getting rid of the rest of the treadmill without the motor isn't exactly easy or cheap.

Am I looking at the wrong things, or am I just a cheapskate? Maybe both.

I've read it's possible to use a VFD on a single phase motor by bypassing the start capacitor using a start switch to energize it. Having trouble finding good info on what VFD to use. I don't really think I need the drill press to reverse, which is one of the downsides of single phase. Would this be a solution to use the original motor or one of the spares I have lying around?


-- 
-Jay Fougere


 

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This guy did a really nice set of videos on his conversion to a sewing machine motor:


On 2/4/24 14:33, mike allen wrote:

these are way different motors than yer average sewing machine motors . The ones in this thread are servo motors & probably 2-3 times the size of a standard sewing machine motor . I've seen these motors up to 1 hp they may have some that go higher ? here's a tube of a guy that put one on his mini lathe , it's not the best vid , but it's the first one that poped up .

animal

On 2/4/24 11:19 AM, davesmith1800 wrote:
I try?sewing machine motors about 1970
Great little motor turns at 15,000 rpm
Great speed control too.
Lacks horse ? power 1/15 hp

Dave?

10:03am???

Went down the rabbit hole on these sewing machine motors
-- 
-Jay Fougere


 

The Consew motor off ebay is a sewing machine motor. In Fact unless you are a certified?sewing machine repair shop there is no factory support.
The brushless DC motor is essentially a three phase motor. I have thought about switching it for reverse as the factory?method is a pain
. A switch would be great..
As I said I have one on my Clausing 8520 mill and my 16" bandsaw. I had one on my 12x36 lathe for a couple of years.
Something started happening on the lathe ( I was getting error codes) so now I have a direct drive servo motor on the spindle.

I still have two of the motors. I might put one on my mini lathe and the other possible on a grinder.

With the pot for speed control I was able to get 5 rpm.

When wiring the pot you do not need any resistors at least I did not use anything but the pot.

If you want to discuss this outside the Lathe forum you can join the AtomicELS forum?it is my group and you can discuss
any shop project.

Ralph







On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 3:52?PM Jay Fougere <groupsio@...> wrote:

This guy did a really nice set of videos on his conversion to a sewing machine motor:


On 2/4/24 14:33, mike allen wrote:

these are way different motors than yer average sewing machine motors . The ones in this thread are servo motors & probably 2-3 times the size of a standard sewing machine motor . I've seen these motors up to 1 hp they may have some that go higher ? here's a tube of a guy that put one on his mini lathe , it's not the best vid , but it's the first one that poped up .

animal

On 2/4/24 11:19 AM, davesmith1800 wrote:
I try?sewing machine motors about 1970
Great little motor turns at 15,000 rpm
Great speed control too.
Lacks horse ? power 1/15 hp

Dave?

10:03am???

Went down the rabbit hole on these sewing machine motors
-- 
-Jay Fougere


 

my? system? is? very old?

I? use a? photocopier motor? from a vintage? xerox 2000
very? powerfull? and? geared
also? 2? end? shaft?
nad??
it is ther? I winn? I? put a stepper motor? on? the backk schaft?
nas like? this have? all? the slow speed? I love

I am? not a machinis at? hight? speed

I am? from? elelctronic??
and? work? at? very slow? speed? I? do not? love? to? hight? speed

the normal? max? is 300 rpm? for? this? kind? of xerox? motor

a good? solution? for me?
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