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I inherited a nice little used milling vise from my Dad.? It's been sitting on a shelf for a bit waiting for me to clean it up and put it to use.
There's a couple spots where it looks like someone missed with a drill and drilled slightly into the tops of the jaws.? Nothing functionally wrong with it, but once I get it apart, was hoping to do something just to make it look better cosmetically.
Was thinking I could use JB Weld or maybe one of those metal-filled epoxy putties after cleaning the holes really well.? Is there anything that would be longer lasting?? I have an oxy-acetylene torch set and a mig welder.? I assume the vise jaws are cast iron.? Maybe some sort of brazing?
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JB Weld IS a metal filled epoxy and is plenty strong enough for this.
Mike Taglieri?
I inherited a nice little used milling vise from my Dad.? It's been sitting on a shelf for a bit waiting for me to clean it up and put it to use.
There's a couple spots where it looks like someone missed with a drill and drilled slightly into the tops of the jaws.? Nothing functionally wrong with it, but once I get it apart, was hoping to do something just to make it look better cosmetically.
Was thinking I could use JB Weld or maybe one of those metal-filled epoxy putties after cleaning the holes really well.? Is there anything that would be longer lasting?? I have an oxy-acetylene torch set and a mig welder.? I assume the vise jaws are cast iron.? Maybe some sort of brazing?
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Thd best is cast iron filler next is braising.?
The big question is are you good at braising.??
If not JB is a good option. They do make better fillers but at higher cost. But JB is found at the local hardware store.?
Da
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I'd leave them there if they don't affect the function of the
vise . Look at it this way , the holes? just yer dads way of
signing the vise before he gave it to ya , think about him every
time ye use it . I sure wouldn't go after them with heat . Like
mentioned JB We3ld will do the job .
animal
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I inherited a nice little used milling vise from my Dad.? It's
been sitting on a shelf for a bit waiting for me to clean it up
and put it to use.
There's a couple spots where it looks like someone missed with a
drill and drilled slightly into the tops of the jaws.? Nothing
functionally wrong with it, but once I get it apart, was hoping to
do something just to make it look better cosmetically.
Was thinking I could use JB Weld or maybe one of those
metal-filled epoxy putties after cleaning the holes really well.?
Is there anything that would be longer lasting?? I have an
oxy-acetylene torch set and a mig welder.? I assume the vise jaws
are cast iron.? Maybe some sort of brazing?
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I agree with mike allen with JB Weld.
Dave?
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It would better to see for photos for right recommendation.?
If cast iron jaws or location the typical the cast is about 25,000psi.?
If steel it could go a lot high to 100,000 psi a different problem and fluxcore/mig is a good option.?
Brazing is can also be good some rods are 67,000 psi that rod I use for repairs. The down side is you can see the color of brass.?
If restoring fof some else the may want the same or very close color . If cast iron this a real pain the fine righ color of rod. The cast iron welding is very higher skill need.?
Dave?
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I inherited a nice little used milling vise from my Dad. It's been sitting on a shelf for a bit waiting for me to clean it up and put it to use.
There's a couple spots where it looks like someone missed with a drill and drilled slightly into the tops of the jaws
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FYI?
JB Weld is about 4,700 psi
Deacon is about 8,700psi high in cost also use on machine tool bed repair.?
In hobby work JB Weld is lot easier to use over welding and low cost.?
The Devcon is great it can be molded in place without having to machine the bedways and dovetails. It cheaper to use JB Weld and may not see any different.?
Dave?
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??? there's also moglice which is used with reconditioning
macihne tool beds & such .
??? animal
On 2/23/24 3:41 AM, davesmith1800
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FYI?
JB Weld is about 4,700 psi
Deacon is about 8,700psi high in cost also use on machine tool bed
repair.?
In hobby work JB Weld is lot easier to use over welding and low
cost.?
The Devcon is great it can be molded in place without having to
machine the bedways and dovetails. It cheaper to use JB Weld and
may not see any different.?
Dave?
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There are some color matching rods for brazing cast iron! They're not an exact color match, but, they're gray instead of brass colored. They're also trickier to use than classic bronze rods.
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Roy
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Get a junk vice from a garage sale or Goodwill for practice, to see how it will turn out for whatever method you chose. Don't practice on the item you want to keep.
For the mig, you can get Silicon Bronze wire, and use argon or CO2 gas.
Yes, it will still leave a golden area like the brazing rod, but if you haven't done brazing rod?before, that's one more new skill to master. Now that isn't a bad thing, but unless you're retired, you may not want to devote time to that. I have done both, and I feel the mig with the bronze wire was a lot faster to get good results with.
There are some color matching rods for brazing cast iron! They're not an exact color match, but, they're gray instead of brass colored. They're also trickier to use than classic bronze rods.
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Roy
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Like others have said, if it doesn't affect the usage of the vice why bother?
Ralph
Get a junk vice from a garage sale or Goodwill for practice, to see how it will turn out for whatever method you chose. Don't practice on the item you want to keep.
For the mig, you can get Silicon Bronze wire, and use argon or CO2 gas.
Yes, it will still leave a golden area like the brazing rod, but if you haven't done brazing rod?before, that's one more new skill to master. Now that isn't a bad thing, but unless you're retired, you may not want to devote time to that. I have done both, and I feel the mig with the bronze wire was a lot faster to get good results with.
There are some color matching rods for brazing cast iron! They're not an exact color match, but, they're gray instead of brass colored. They're also trickier to use than classic bronze rods.
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Roy
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I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The original poster seemed to be talking about small, cosmetic holes. For these, epoxy should be sufficient with no need for welding, brazing, etc.
Mike Taglieri?
Get a junk vice from a garage sale or Goodwill for practice, to see how it will turn out for whatever method you chose. Don't practice on the item you want to keep.
For the mig, you can get Silicon Bronze wire, and use argon or CO2 gas.
Yes, it will still leave a golden area like the brazing rod, but if you haven't done brazing rod?before, that's one more new skill to master. Now that isn't a bad thing, but unless you're retired, you may not want to devote time to that. I have done both, and I feel the mig with the bronze wire was a lot faster to get good results with.
There are some color matching rods for brazing cast iron! They're not an exact color match, but, they're gray instead of brass colored. They're also trickier to use than classic bronze rods.
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Roy
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I agree ??
It is for me to go top end repair.
It is type I did you given one chance to do right.
I have to remembered this a hobby and a hobby budget.?
Keep it simple?
In this case JB Weld is best for this job
Dave?
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I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The original poster seemed to be talking about small, cosmetic holes. For these, epoxy should be sufficient with no need for welding, brazing, etc.
Mike Taglieri
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Goot some India made milling vise components and found several big blowholes filled with cheap Bondo. Dug it all out, cleaned it up, and thought about how to best fill the holes. After some time considering all the alternatives I have concluded that an epoxy filled stick is probably my best alternative as the problem is cosmetic!? ?Bill in Boulder
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I agree ??
It is for me to go top end repair.
It is type I did you given one chance to do right.
I have to remembered this a hobby and a hobby budget.?
Keep it simple?
In this case JB Weld is best for this job
Dave?
Miket_NYC
1:23pm? ?
I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The original poster seemed to be talking about small, cosmetic holes. For these, epoxy should be sufficient with no need for welding, brazing, etc.
Mike Taglieri
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mike
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Get a junk vice from a garage sale or Goodwill for practice, to see how it will turn out for whatever method you chose.
Don't practice on the item you want to keep.
For the mig, you can get Silicon Bronze wire, and use argon or CO2 gas.
Yes, it will still leave a golden area like the brazing rod, but if you haven't done brazing rod before, that's one more new skill to master.
Now that isn't a bad thing, but unless you're retired, you may not want to devote time to that. I have done both, and I feel the mig with the bronze wire was a lot faster to get good results with.
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There are some color matching rods for brazing cast iron! They're not an exact color match, but, they're gray instead of brass colored. They're also trickier to use than classic bronze rods.
?< https://www.lawsonproducts.com/Cronatron/22-Cast-Iron-Bare-Brazing-Rod-316/CW3062.lp >
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Ralph Hulslander
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Like others have said, if it doesn't affect the usage of the vice why bother?
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I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The original poster seemed to be talking about small, cosmetic holes. For these, epoxy should be sufficient with no need for welding, brazing, etc.
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I agree ??
It is for me to go top end repair.
It is type I did you given one chance to do right.
I have to remembered this a hobby and a hobby budget.?
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In this case JB Weld is best for this job
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Goot some India made milling vise components and found several big blowholes filled with cheap Bondo. Dug it all out, cleaned it up, and thought about how to best fill the holes. After some time considering all the alternatives I have concluded that an epoxy filled stick is probably my best alternative as the problem is cosmetic! Bill in Boulder
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I agree ??
It is for me to go top end repair.
It is type I did you given one chance to do right.
I have to remembered this a hobby and a hobby budget.?
Keep it simple?
In this case JB Weld is best for this job
Dave?
Miket_NYC
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I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The original poster seemed to be talking about small, cosmetic holes. For these, epoxy should be sufficient with no need for welding, brazing, etc.
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... There down side to bronze mig and cast iron. You can not see bronze adhere to cast iron.? You could cold weld with mig.? Torch or TIG you see the adhering.? I have used both and found torch is best but slower. Dave?
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