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Thanks for all the tips.
I put a big "toothpick" into the hole and twisted, and the best I found was 0,6+ pitch on a ca 3 mm hole, and do to the big .xls from Kerry , a 1/8 is very close, and it will be tested out tomorrow. As you can see from the picture, it is a very short hole. So, 55 or 60 deg is not so important.
There are some restorations on YouTube , and I will try to contact them for a picture of the head of the screw.

Johannes
Mexico



 

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Metric pitches have changed around 1968 / 1968:


Dia??? old pitch ? ??? current pitch

3mm??? 0.6mm??? ??? ??? 0.50mm

3.5mm 0.7mm??? ??? ??? 0.6mm

4mm??? 0.75mm?? ?????? 0.70mm

5mm??? 0.9mm??????????? 0.8mm
above they didn't change.

On 26.07.24 06:57, Johannes via groups.io wrote:

Thanks for all the tips.
I put a big "toothpick" into the hole and twisted, and the best I found was 0,6+ pitch on a ca 3 mm hole, and do to the big .xls from Kerry , a 1/8 is very close, and it will be tested out tomorrow. As you can see from the picture, it is a very short hole. So, 55 or 60 deg is not so important.
There are some restorations on YouTube , and I will try to contact them for a picture of the head of the screw.

Johannes
Mexico


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In addition, if you turn your own screws with an imperial lathe, make sure that you use a 60° tool, NOT 55°, otherwise, especially with? small screws, it will easily break.



On 27.07.24 12:28, Pierre-Raymond Rondelle via groups.io wrote:

Metric pitches have changed around 1968 / 1968:


Dia??? old pitch ? ??? current pitch

3mm??? 0.6mm??? ??? ??? 0.50mm

3.5mm 0.7mm??? ??? ??? 0.6mm

4mm??? 0.75mm?? ?????? 0.70mm

5mm??? 0.9mm??????????? 0.8mm
above they didn't change.

On 26.07.24 06:57, Johannes via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for all the tips.
I put a big "toothpick" into the hole and twisted, and the best I found was 0,6+ pitch on a ca 3 mm hole, and do to the big .xls from Kerry , a 1/8 is very close, and it will be tested out tomorrow. As you can see from the picture, it is a very short hole. So, 55 or 60 deg is not so important.
There are some restorations on YouTube , and I will try to contact them for a picture of the head of the screw.

Johannes
Mexico


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Interesting . MY tap set has all 8 of the pitches in Pierre's list below , that set only goes up to 12 mm .? It ca,e to be @ my first motorcycle which is right @ that time frame . I can look at just about any SAE bolt & tell ya what pitch it is , I look at a metric & I'm lost .

thanks

animal

On 7/27/24 3:28 AM, Pierre-Raymond Rondelle via groups.io wrote:

Metric pitches have changed around 1968 / 1968:


Dia??? old pitch ? ??? current pitch

3mm??? 0.6mm??? ??? ??? 0.50mm

3.5mm 0.7mm??? ??? ??? 0.6mm

4mm??? 0.75mm?? ?????? 0.70mm

5mm??? 0.9mm??????????? 0.8mm
above they didn't change.

On 26.07.24 06:57, Johannes via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for all the tips.
I put a big "toothpick" into the hole and twisted, and the best I found was 0,6+ pitch on a ca 3 mm hole, and do to the big .xls from Kerry , a 1/8 is very close, and it will be tested out tomorrow. As you can see from the picture, it is a very short hole. So, 55 or 60 deg is not so important.
There are some restorations on YouTube , and I will try to contact them for a picture of the head of the screw.

Johannes
Mexico


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Have you looked at Whitworth threads -?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth
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From Wikipedia -
?
British Standard Whitworth?(BSW) is an?-based??standard, devised and specified by??in 1841 and later adopted as a?...
?
The Whitworth thread was the world's first national screw thread standard,?devised and specified by??in 1841.
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Just a thought...
?
ralphie
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?The biggest problem was taps for odd sizes. The smaller the harder. A large size I can single point.?
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Try this almost all fire hydrant use LH pipe threads but hose are different sizes
The hydrant manufacturers just changed have change the one brass part for different hose sizes.
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It is something you every day and knows of threads.
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Dave?
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On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 12:30 PM, Ralph Lehotsky wrote:

Have you looked at Whitworth threads -?
?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth
?
From Wikipedia -
?
British Standard Whitworth?(BSW) is an?-based??standard, devised and specified by??in 1841 and later adopted as a?...
?
The Whitworth thread was the world's first national screw thread standard,?devised and specified by??in 1841.
?
Just a thought...
?
ralphie
?


 

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Dear Dave,

I know this company has been mentioned before, but it may be worth looking at?
Tracy Tools in the UK ?
www.tracytools.com
I hope this is useful.?
They sell a wide range of odd size taps etc., as well as the usual ones. (I’ve used them for years.) They always seem to include their latest catalogue, which I find useful.

David?

On 28 Jul 2024, at 03:35, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

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?The biggest problem was taps for odd sizes. The smaller the harder. A large size I can single point.?
?
Try this almost all fire hydrant use LH pipe threads but hose are different sizes
The hydrant manufacturers just changed have change the one brass part for different hose sizes.
?
It is something you every day and knows of threads.
?
Dave?
?
On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 12:30 PM, Ralph Lehotsky wrote:
Have you looked at Whitworth threads -?
?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth
?
From Wikipedia -
?
British Standard Whitworth?(BSW) is an?-based??standard, devised and specified by??in 1841 and later adopted as a?...
?
The Whitworth thread was the world's first national screw thread standard,?devised and specified by??in 1841.
?
Just a thought...
?
ralphie
?


 

Back 1980's a special tap under ?" to made about $100.00.
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Dave?
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On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 12:21 AM, DAVID WILLIAMS wrote:

Dear Dave,
?
I know this company has been mentioned before, but it may be worth looking at?
Tracy Tools in the UK ?
www.tracytools.com
I hope this is useful.?
They sell a wide range of odd size taps etc., as well as the usual ones. (I’ve used them for years.) They always seem to include their latest catalogue, which I find useful.
?
David?
?

On 28 Jul 2024, at 03:35, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

?The biggest problem was taps for odd sizes. The smaller the harder. A large size I can single point.?
?
Try this almost all fire hydrant use LH pipe threads but hose are different sizes
The hydrant manufacturers just changed have change the one brass part for different hose sizes.
?
It is something you every day and knows of threads.
?
Dave?
?
On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 12:30 PM, Ralph Lehotsky wrote:
Have you looked at Whitworth threads -?
?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth
?
From Wikipedia -
?
British Standard Whitworth?(BSW) is an?-based??standard, devised and specified by??in 1841 and later adopted as a?...
?
The Whitworth thread was the world's first national screw thread standard,?devised and specified by??in 1841.
?
Just a thought...
?
ralphie
?


 

Look at a youtube video "restoration of an antique German pencil sharpener". It may help with the shape of your screws. They may even be able to provide you with some measurements of the screws in question if they still have this item. Paul M