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Often a lot of swarf ends up on the floor in front of the lathe.??? In an effect to limit this I made some front shielding and widened the ways rubber cover.?? Other members may have such arrangements or better.? Time will tell of its efficacy and if modifications or additions are needed.?? And if inconvenience is excessive.?? Short tapers can be cut with the shields in place.
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The lower shield does not limit carriage travel and in the vertical plane is very close to the factory chuck shield.?? Cutting tools can reach the chuck center before the shield can touch the chuck body.?? It is attached to the factory protractor which was removed when I set back the compound mounting point many years ago.
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The upper shield has a cutout for mounting tool holders.?? All tool holders (save the scissors knurler) can be attached to the tool post – even the large Diamond-brand diamond tool – the closest fit is the part tool holder.
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The image show an indexable tool (diamond-shape insert) in the QCTP – the shield touches the chuck guard with the tool tip 5/32” from the chuck’s inside jaws.? The large Diamond-brand tool touches the jaws with ?” to spare.
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The upper shield is attached to the QCTP with double-sided tape.?? If I decide all is good and any mods made and I like the arrangement, I will see about drilling and tapping the QCTP for a proper attachment.
-- Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA
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Nice workmanship on the shield, but I would find it way too annoying.? That's why you can probably look at 10,000 photos of lathes and not see such a thing.? Of course, it COULD be because nobody thought of it.? And automatic lathes and machining centers are in enclosures, of course, which corral the chips.? But I want more access to the business areas of a lathe, not less.
That said, I actually HAVE used a guard of sorts at times.? A machinist shop coat - with half-length or short sleeves.? Occasionally I have worn an apron (with short sleeved shirt).? Followed up with a broom and dustpan to clean the floor.? Maybe I'm "old school."
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 05:17:52 PM PDT, Craig Hopewell via groups.io <cch80124@...> wrote:
Often a lot of swarf ends up on the floor in front of the lathe.??? In an effect to limit this I made some front shielding and widened the ways rubber cover.?? Other members may have such arrangements or better.? Time will tell of its efficacy and if modifications or additions are needed.?? And if inconvenience is excessive.?? Short tapers can be cut with the shields in place.
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The lower shield does not limit carriage travel and in the vertical plane is very close to the factory chuck shield.?? Cutting tools can reach the chuck center before the shield can touch the chuck body.?? It is attached to the factory protractor which was removed when I set back the compound mounting point many years ago.
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The upper shield has a cutout for mounting tool holders.?? All tool holders (save the scissors knurler) can be attached to the tool post – even the large Diamond-brand diamond tool – the closest fit is the part tool holder.
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The image show an indexable tool (diamond-shape insert) in the QCTP – the shield touches the chuck guard with the tool tip 5/32” from the chuck’s inside jaws.? The large Diamond-brand tool touches the jaws with ?” to spare.
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The upper shield is attached to the QCTP with double-sided tape.?? If I decide all is good and any mods made and I like the arrangement, I will see about drilling and tapping the QCTP for a proper attachment.
-- Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA
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Most times I use a piece of cardboard held in my left hand. This is in part to the fact that I'm a paraplegic and therefore have to support myself with my left forearm on the control cover on the right side. Thus my hand is free to hold the cardboard.
george
On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 05:52:31 PM PDT, Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:
Nice workmanship on the shield, but I would find it way too annoying.? That's why you can probably look at 10,000 photos of lathes and not see such a thing.? Of course, it COULD be because nobody thought of it.? And automatic lathes and machining centers are in enclosures, of course, which corral the chips.? But I want more access to the business areas of a lathe, not less.
That said, I actually HAVE used a guard of sorts at times.? A machinist shop coat - with half-length or short sleeves.? Occasionally I have worn an apron (with short sleeved shirt).? Followed up with a broom and dustpan to clean the floor.? Maybe I'm "old school."
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 05:17:52 PM PDT, Craig Hopewell via groups.io <cch80124@...> wrote:
Often a lot of swarf ends up on the floor in front of the lathe.??? In an effect to limit this I made some front shielding and widened the ways rubber cover.?? Other members may have such arrangements or better.? Time will tell of its efficacy and if modifications or additions are needed.?? And if inconvenience is excessive.?? Short tapers can be cut with the shields in place.
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The lower shield does not limit carriage travel and in the vertical plane is very close to the factory chuck shield.?? Cutting tools can reach the chuck center before the shield can touch the chuck body.?? It is attached to the factory protractor which was removed when I set back the compound mounting point many years ago.
?
The upper shield has a cutout for mounting tool holders.?? All tool holders (save the scissors knurler) can be attached to the tool post – even the large Diamond-brand diamond tool – the closest fit is the part tool holder.
?
The image show an indexable tool (diamond-shape insert) in the QCTP – the shield touches the chuck guard with the tool tip 5/32” from the chuck’s inside jaws.? The large Diamond-brand tool touches the jaws with ?” to spare.
?
The upper shield is attached to the QCTP with double-sided tape.?? If I decide all is good and any mods made and I like the arrangement, I will see about drilling and tapping the QCTP for a proper attachment.
-- Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA
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I could not agree more , Charles.? ? The shields are an attempt to limit the "crunchy floor", and could well wear out their welcome.? ?For me, versus the floor, I try to remember to wear a face shield as I am visually impaired (retina disease) and have to work very close.? ?Often closer than the new shields.? ?The effort to make the shields was as much to see what I could build as anything of making a substantial improvement.
An infinitely adjustable cardboard square, chasing the swarf ejection, may be a superior solution, George.
And now having said this, I have one of those coolant tube created shields with a magnet on the opposite end mounted on the drill press - with the shield positioned above the belt enclosure - not in use for years.? ?8^|
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I have a vacuum attachment for use with the lathe. It turns on when the lathe is on and picks up any and all swarf at the source. This is cleaner than anything I have seen.?
Dick
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1- I have magnetic? came? from? vintage? hard? disk? form? electronic? my? work
just? open a? vintage? hard? disk? picup? the magnet? that? move? the? reading? needle? ?very powerfull? x2
NB? put? the magnet? in? a? plastic? bag? or? so??
also? use the? 50cc? magnetic? 'ceringue'
2- ontil? have? vacuum? ?I put? also? a 300cfm? fan? to? push? all chic in? the? central? vacuum
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Best proof of excellent functionality is how clean the lathe looks? ??
I'd be rid of both guards before plugging it in.
On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 6:17?PM Craig Hopewell via <cch80124= [email protected]> wrote: Often a lot of swarf ends up on the floor in front of the lathe.??? In an effect to limit this I made some front shielding and widened the ways rubber cover.?? Other members may have such arrangements or better.? Time will tell of its efficacy and if modifications or additions are needed.?? And if inconvenience is excessive.?? Short tapers can be cut with the shields in place.
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The lower shield does not limit carriage travel and in the vertical plane is very close to the factory chuck shield.?? Cutting tools can reach the chuck center before the shield can touch the chuck body.?? It is attached to the factory protractor which was removed when I set back the compound mounting point many years ago.
?
The upper shield has a cutout for mounting tool holders.?? All tool holders (save the scissors knurler) can be attached to the tool post – even the large Diamond-brand diamond tool – the closest fit is the part tool holder.
?
The image show an indexable tool (diamond-shape insert) in the QCTP – the shield touches the chuck guard with the tool tip 5/32” from the chuck’s inside jaws.? The large Diamond-brand tool touches the jaws with ?” to spare.
?
The upper shield is attached to the QCTP with double-sided tape.?? If I decide all is good and any mods made and I like the arrangement, I will see about drilling and tapping the QCTP for a proper attachment.
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The lathe got November came with a shield for chuck.
Nice no oil spots shirts from chuck.?
Dave?
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It's all to personal preference, I got rid of the guards on both
the mini-lathe and mini-mill before I used them. There is no right
or wrong.
On 4/7/2024 8:01 AM, mario mohl wrote:
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the lathe looks? ??
I'd be rid of both guards before plugging it in.
On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 6:17?PM
Craig Hopewell via <cch80124= [email protected]>
wrote:
Often a lot of
swarf ends up on the floor in front of the lathe.??? In
an effect to limit this I made some front shielding and
widened the ways rubber cover.?? Other members may have
such arrangements or better.? Time will tell of its
efficacy and if modifications or additions are needed.??
And if inconvenience is excessive.?? Short tapers can be
cut with the shields in place.
?
The lower shield
does not limit carriage travel and in the vertical plane
is very close to the factory chuck shield.?? Cutting
tools can reach the chuck center before the shield can
touch the chuck body.?? It is attached to the factory
protractor which was removed when I set back the
compound mounting point many years ago.
?
The upper shield
has a cutout for mounting tool holders.?? All tool
holders (save the scissors knurler) can be attached to
the tool post – even the large Diamond-brand diamond
tool – the closest fit is the part tool holder.
?
The image show
an indexable tool (diamond-shape insert) in the QCTP –
the shield touches the chuck guard with the tool tip
5/32” from the chuck’s inside jaws.? The large
Diamond-brand tool touches the jaws with ?” to spare.
?
The upper shield
is attached to the QCTP with double-sided tape.?? If I
decide all is good and any mods made and I like the
arrangement, I will see about drilling and tapping the
QCTP for a proper attachment.
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Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA
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I agree
I like the chuck having a shielding so the oil says in oil pan.?
Dave?
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It's pretty hard to avoid throwing some oil.? But if a lot of it is being thrown, too much is perhaps being used.
When doing manual lathe work with a small low horsepower lathe, you only need a little oil IF you are using it for cutting.? If you are using too little, the cutting results will tell you and you can increase it a little.? And if oiling a chuck after cleaning, only enough is needed to make a film.? No need to flood the chuck internals with oil.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 12:03:25 PM PDT, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
I agree
I like the chuck having a shielding so the oil says in oil pan.?
Dave?
Paul Loyd
10:01am? ?
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My last lathe had no shielding.?
It nice as chuck at 2,000 rpm will spay oil.?
Saves the shirt ? from spots.
Dave?
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Ya don't like that line in the shirt ? First time I took a chuck
apart & cleaned it I used too much lube & ended up with
that tell tail stripe o the front of my shirt when I fired the
lathe up .? I learned quick .
animal
On 4/7/24 12:54 PM, davesmith1800
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My last lathe had no shielding.?
It nice as chuck at 2,000 rpm will spay oil.?
Saves the shirt ? from spots.
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Yea, if and when I lube up a chuck I just cover the chuck with cardboard and then just step aside and spin it up. Stop and wait a bit and spin it up again. Pretty quickly I get nothing coming out.? After that is cutting oil spray. But that's why we have bibs and such. And of course I never use clean clothes, they are all? premarked.?
george
On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 01:39:28 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
Ya don't like that line in the shirt ? First time I took a chuck
apart & cleaned it I used too much lube & ended up with
that tell tail stripe o the front of my shirt when I fired the
lathe up .? I learned quick .
animal
On 4/7/24 12:54 PM, davesmith1800
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My last lathe had no shielding.?
It nice as chuck at 2,000 rpm will spay oil.?
Saves the shirt ? from spots.
Dave?
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I had same shirt patterns?
My first two lathe where low speed 750 and 350 rpm so just spin at top rpm.
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My next was 1,800 rpm sound great to speed oil off the chuck now the ceiling and walls had a oil line too.?
Dave?
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mike allen
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Ya don't like that line in the shirt ? First time I took a chuck apart & cleaned it I used too much lube & ended up with that tell tail stripe o the front of my shirt when I fired the lathe up . I learned quick
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I had a lot shirts per marked.?
But shirts also had burn marks and paint.?
So always had two shirts one for work and one for lunch meetings. I was on drafting board too.?
Dave?
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Yea, if and when I lube up a chuck I just cover the chuck with cardboard and then just step aside and spin it up. Stop and wait a bit and spin it up again. Pretty quickly I get nothing coming out. After that is cutting oil spray. But that's why we have bibs and such. And of course I never use clean clothes, they are all premarked
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I could not agree more , Charles.? ? The shields are an attempt to limit the "crunchy floor", and could well wear out their welcome.? ?For me, versus the floor, I try to remember to wear a face shield as I am visually impaired (retina disease) and have to work very close.? ?Often closer than the new shields.? ?The effort to make the shields was as much to see what I could build as anything of making a substantial improvement.
An infinitely adjustable cardboard square, chasing the swarf ejection, may be a superior solution, George.
And now having said this, I have one of those coolant tube created shields with a magnet on the opposite end mounted on the drill press - with the shield positioned above the belt enclosure - not in use for years.? ?8^|
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I am more interested not having oil all over from the lathe chuck.
I good set safety glasses witch can buy upto 3.00 from some machine shop supplier. On internet you can find low cost RX safety glasses too.?
The face shield is great but hard to keep clean to see out of.
Dave?
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On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 05:26 Craig Hopewell via groups.io <cch80124@...> wrote:
I could not agree more , Charles. The shields are an attempt to limit the "crunchy floor", and could well wear out their welcome. For me, versus the floor, I try to remember to wear a face shield as I am visually impaired (retina disease) and have to work very close. Often closer than the new shields. The effort to make the shields was as much to see what I could build as anything of making a substantial improvement.
An infinitely adjustable cardboard square, chasing the swarf ejection, may be a superior solution, George.
And now having said this, I have one of those coolant tube created shields with a magnet on the opposite end mounted on the drill press - with the shield positioned above the belt enclosure - not in use for years. 8^|
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??? Face shields mess with my peripheral vision? the edge always
makes me look over to one side or the other .
??? animal
On 4/8/24 8:24 AM, davesmith1800 wrote:
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I am more interested not having oil all over from the lathe chuck.
I good set safety glasses witch can buy upto 3.00 from some
machine shop supplier. On internet you can find low cost RX safety
glasses too.?
The face shield is great but hard to keep clean to see out of.
Dave?
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Robert Francis
7:25am? ?
On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 05:26 Craig Hopewell via
groups.io <cch80124@...> wrote:
I could not agree more , Charles. The shields are an
attempt to limit the "crunchy floor", and could well wear out
their welcome. For me, versus the floor, I try to remember to
wear a face shield as I am visually impaired (retina disease)
and have to work very close. Often closer than the new shields.
The effort to make the shields was as much to see what I could
build as anything of making a substantial improvement.
An infinitely adjustable cardboard square, chasing the
swarf ejection, may be a superior solution, George.
And now having said this, I have one of those coolant
tube created shields with a magnet on the opposite end mounted
on the drill press - with the shield positioned above the belt
enclosure - not in use for years. 8^|
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Lone Tree, Colorado USA
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