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So about a month ago, the blade in my saw broke while doing a long cut (2" thick/7" long), probably needed lube!? When I got that blade (HF) it also behaved oddly, but settled and cut really straight.? The new blade (also HF) cuts at about a 7-8 degree angle, which is highly annoying to say the least.? I swapped out the guide bearings, just in case, and although one was toast, it didn't make a difference while cutting.? Are some HF blades bad from the git-go??
-Dave
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I broke a HF blade? with only a few cuts. They gave me a free replacement with no questions. They have cut well enough for my expectations.?
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 4:24 PM Dave Seiter < d.seiter@...> wrote: So about a month ago, the blade in my saw broke while doing a long cut (2" thick/7" long), probably needed lube!? When I got that blade (HF) it also behaved oddly, but settled and cut really straight.? The new blade (also HF) cuts at about a 7-8 degree angle, which is highly annoying to say the least.? I swapped out the guide bearings, just in case, and although one was toast, it didn't make a difference while cutting.? Are some HF blades bad from the git-go??
-Dave
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Rule: The tool that does the actual cutting, should be made in USA.
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That includes drill bits, end mills, saw blades, whatever. I have found that it is well worth the extra money, to get quality cutting tools.
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Lenox, is a good choice.
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Other Bill
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Subject: [4x6bandsaw] Bad blade from HF?
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So about a month ago, the blade in my saw broke while doing a long cut (2" thick/7" long), probably needed lube!? When I got that blade (HF) it also behaved oddly, but
settled and cut really straight.? The new blade (also HF) cuts at about a 7-8 degree angle, which is highly annoying to say the least.? I swapped out the guide bearings, just in case, and although one was toast, it didn't make a difference while cutting.?
Are some HF blades bad from the git-go??
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I only use the Bi-metal blades and I get MONTHs from them. While I don't use the bandsaw every week and I only purchased them with the 20% discount coupon(NOW GONE).? I still have 8 blades ready to go.
Larry
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 5:14 PM Bill Armstrong < bill_1955@...> wrote:
Rule: The tool that does the actual cutting, should be made in USA.
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That includes drill bits, end mills, saw blades, whatever. I have found that it is well worth the extra money, to get quality cutting tools.
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Lenox, is a good choice.
?
Other Bill
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So about a month ago, the blade in my saw broke while doing a long cut (2" thick/7" long), probably needed lube!? When I got that blade (HF) it also behaved oddly, but
settled and cut really straight.? The new blade (also HF) cuts at about a 7-8 degree angle, which is highly annoying to say the least.? I swapped out the guide bearings, just in case, and although one was toast, it didn't make a difference while cutting.?
Are some HF blades bad from the git-go??
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??? ???? I have been buying Bosch blades at LOWE's for @ 10.00
for my saw & they have been working fine . I also got some
larger metal cutting ones for my 14 " vertical bandsaw at Lowes
for @ 14 bucks
??? ??? animal
On 4/7/2021 2:23 PM, Dave Seiter wrote:
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So about a month ago, the
blade in my saw broke while doing a long cut (2" thick/7"
long), probably needed lube!? When I got that blade (HF) it
also behaved oddly, but settled and cut really straight.? The
new blade (also HF) cuts at about a 7-8 degree angle, which is
highly annoying to say the least.? I swapped out the guide
bearings, just in case, and although one was toast, it didn't
make a difference while cutting.? Are some HF blades bad from
the git-go??
-Dave
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I use Lenox blades. They aren't that expensive and cut much better than the HF blade mine came with.
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021, 2:24 PM Dave Seiter < d.seiter@...> wrote: So about a month ago, the blade in my saw broke while doing a long cut (2" thick/7" long), probably needed lube!? When I got that blade (HF) it also behaved oddly, but settled and cut really straight.? The new blade (also HF) cuts at about a 7-8 degree angle, which is highly annoying to say the least.? I swapped out the guide bearings, just in case, and although one was toast, it didn't make a difference while cutting.? Are some HF blades bad from the git-go??
-Dave
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Hi Dave A blade pretty much cuts in the direction the blade body is pointing. If it cuts to one side then the blade body probably is pointing to that side UNLESS the teeth are damaged, the undamaged side cuts when the damaged side doesn't cut so quickly and so it veers off to the side?with?the sharper teeth. With an identical setup to a blade that cut well from new in the past and that you hadn't adusted?the angle of the blade body recently, I'd suspect the new blade is damaged on one side.??
Replacing a side guide roller CAN upset the direction the blade body points, if you change the clearance between the blade and side guide rollers when doing so.? The type of adjusters that do this, are the ones where you have to release the eccentric shaft to change to the bearing.? The ones with a circlip to retain the bearing on its shaft are not affected. This happens because the?blade?is being twisted by the guide assemblies, so it slants across the gap between the 2 rollers.? Wider gap = more slant, and blade cuts away from the vice. Manuals call for zero to 0.001" clearance, i.e. 25-26thou" gap between rollers.? Set the gap with feeler gauges not the blade if you can. John Pitkin advised about 0.007" gap to stop swarf from shock-load destroying the bearings esp. if you are?using cutting fluid which makes swarf stick to the blade, carrying?it into the roller-to-blade nip.? I set mine 0.001" and use a blade scraper, and believe this is the best setting if you don't use lube when cutting steel.? (aluminium is too soft to damage?the bearings) Question: Did you change the bearing before or after trying the new blade?? If it cut at a slant before you changed the bearing, and you hadn't adjusted for damage recently, then you can be pretty sure the blade is at fault, though I'd have to say it is unusual for a new blade to act this way as blade-making is pretty sophisticated these days and welding and weld-flash grinding faults are about the only things I've come across, even for supposedly poorer quality blades. If you changed the roller before trying the new blade and it's of the type described then check that first.?? One last thought - it could be that your roller gap was larger and the saw set up to cut square like that, and after changing the bearing you are now running a tighter gap, in which case the blade will cut toward the?vice.?Check the gap on the guide assembly you didn't touch, to see what that is.? It may be an indicator - jv ?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 9:24 AM Dave Seiter < d.seiter@...> wrote: So about a month ago, the blade in my saw broke while doing a long cut (2" thick/7" long), probably needed lube!? When I got that blade (HF) it also behaved oddly, but settled and cut really straight.? The new blade (also HF) cuts at about a 7-8 degree angle, which is highly annoying to say the least.? I swapped out the guide bearings, just in case, and although one was toast, it didn't make a difference while cutting.? Are some HF blades bad from the git-go??
-Dave
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On 4/7/2021 5:29 PM, Larry Hoelscher wrote: I only use the Bi-metal blades and I get MONTHs from them. While I don't use the bandsaw every week and I only purchased them with the 20% discount coupon(NOW GONE).? I still have 8 blades ready to go.
Larry
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 5:14 PM Bill Armstrong <bill_1955@... <mailto:bill_1955@...>> wrote:
Rule: The tool that does the actual cutting, should be made in USA. ____
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That includes drill bits, end mills, saw blades, whatever. I have
found that it is well worth the extra money, to get quality cutting
tools. ____
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Lenox, is a good choice.
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Other Bill____
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*From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] *On
Behalf Of *Dave Seiter
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 07, 2021 2:24 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* [4x6bandsaw] Bad blade from HF?____
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So about a month ago, the blade in my saw broke while doing a long
cut (2" thick/7" long), probably needed lube!? When I got that blade
(HF) it also behaved oddly, but settled and cut really straight. The new blade (also HF) cuts at about a 7-8 degree angle, which is
highly annoying to say the least.? I swapped out the guide bearings,
just in case, and although one was toast, it didn't make a
difference while cutting. Are some HF blades bad from the git-go? ____
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-Dave____
I quit using HF blades a long time ago ... I buy my blades from www.lacuttingproducts.com now , great blades and reasonable prices . Use code MAGLAS for a 10% discount . Every blade failure I've had with their products is because I did something stupid ... -- Snag In 1775, the British demanded we give them our guns. We shot them.
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I never got that far on HF blades, the joint just broke when tensioned. Bought them on sale long before I needed them. On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 21:23:40 +0000 (UTC), "Dave Seiter" <d.seiter@...> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out: So about a month ago, the blade in my saw broke while doing a long cut (2" thick/7" long), probably needed lube!? When I got that blade (HF) it also behaved oddly, but settled and cut really straight.? The new blade (also HF) cuts at about a 7-8 degree angle, which is highly annoying to say the least.? I swapped out the guide bearings, just in case, and although one was toast, it didn't make a difference while cutting.? Are some HF blades bad from the git-go??
-Dave
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