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4x6 Bandsaw
popwri2002
I bought my 4x6 from HF about 3 months ago for $99.00 and love it.
It sure beats the hack saw. I don't use it everyday but it sure is nice to know it's sitting there waiting for me.I haven't had any problems with it so far.I have done a few mods. to it. Just buy one and have fun watching it do the work. Bill |
Gotta second the cheer leading here! Any brand of the 4x6 will let you
do jobs that you would be very reluctant to tackle with a hand powered hack saw. The only downside to one of these wonders, is trying to get over allowing 1/8 to 1/4 inch oversize to the cut to make sure a crooked cut does not spoil the workpiece! 8-) Leo (pearland, tx) |
Rex Smith
I take it no-one has solved the crooked cut problem yet? I've finally learned to live with it, and think it's slightly mitigated with the bi-metal blade.
I sometimes fantasize about going with the next bigger size saw with the 3/4" blade, but the small size and low cost of my 4x6 trumps the straight cut. Of course I'm just assuming the 3/4" blade will cut straight; maybe that's a fallacy. Anyone know? rex ----Original Message Follows---- From: dswr@... Reply-To: 4x6bandsaw@... To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] 4x6 Bandsaw Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:59:32 -0500 (CDT) Gotta second the cheer leading here! Any brand of the 4x6 will let you do jobs that you would be very reluctant to tackle with a hand powered hack saw. The only downside to one of these wonders, is trying to get over allowing 1/8 to 1/4 inch oversize to the cut to make sure a crooked cut does not spoil the workpiece! 8-) Leo (pearland, tx) _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* |
Jim E.
I tied a small piece of rope around the blade tightening knob. I apply
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light pressure in and down during cutting of larger pieces, seems to get around the crooked-cut problem. Graciously, Jim Lakewood, CA All Hail Rube Goldberg! dswr@... wrote:
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On 10 Jun, Rex Smith wrote:
I take it no-one has solved the crooked cut problem yet? I've finallyI've found that if the band tension is up HIGH and if the rollers are carefully adjusted and if the pivot is not worn and if the speed is not too fast and if some lubricant is used ( I use some waxy stuff ) and if the saw is sharp pretty darn straight cuts result. I do usually run an endmill over the edge when I'm being really picky, but rarely take off more than .050" to true it up. Often just a file cleans it up to my satisfaction. The pivot IS an issue, though, and I can see a major mod in my future somewhere along the line. But like everyone else here, I can't IMAGINE how I lived without one. Alan -- Alan Rothenbush | The Spartans do not ask the number of the Academic Computing Services | enemy, only where they are. Simon Fraser University | Burnaby, B.C., Canada | Agix of Sparta |
Uh Oh! My feeble attempt at humor was misinterpreted!!! (glad i'm not a
sit-com writer) My reference to "crooked" cuts was meant to show that in laying out a cut line on a workpiece that will be cut by a hand hacksaw, you have to allow for a wandering blade. (in my case anyway) I have used the same system on my bandsaw, only to find that the cut is only "thousands" off square. This means extra work, facing, to bring the part to the correct length dimension. My saw (an akra brand) has a bi-metal blade, bought from Enco. I am impressed with the exactness of the cut. Excuse the attempt at humor! Leo (location not disclosed) |
Chris Baugher
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 alan@... wrote:
On 10 Jun, Rex Smith wrote:I would say all of the above are correct with the major factors being theI take it no-one has solved the crooked cut problem yet? I've finallyif the band tension is up HIGH and first three. I run mine at high speed with no lube and it still cuts pretty straight. Often just a file cleans it up to my satisfaction. The pivot IS anYeah, even with the limited use I've given mine I can definitely see the pivot being a problem in the future. I think some sort of bearing arangement would help a lot. But like everyone else here, I can't IMAGINE how I lived without one.No kidding! It's mesmerizing just to watch it happily cutting away. C| |
Jim,
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Gave me a good chuckle, Thanks ! Lenord All Hail Rube Goldberg! |
Clint D
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I have tried everything I can think of and can't get it out of one of my saws. I have two of them, the first one cuts straight right since I got it, the other one is way off and can't get it corrected for nothing Clint ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Smith" <rex@...> To: <4x6bandsaw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] 4x6 Bandsaw I take it no-one has solved the crooked cut problem yet? I've finallybi-metal blade. |
Rex Smith
Now if we could only understand why that is...
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----Original Message Follows---- From: "Clint D" <driggars@...> Reply-To: 4x6bandsaw@... To: <4x6bandsaw@...> Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] 4x6 Bandsaw Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:55:21 -0500 Rex I have tried everything I can think of and can't get it out of one of my saws. I have two of them, the first one cuts straight right since I got it, the other one is way off and can't get it corrected for nothing Clint ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Smith" <rex@...> To: <4x6bandsaw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] 4x6 Bandsaw I take it no-one has solved the crooked cut problem yet? I've finallybi-metal blade._________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* |
Clint,
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I've found that if I put too much downward pressure on the blade, cutting too fast, whether with weight added to the handle or fussing with the spring thing, I get an angled cut.............. FWIW Lenord ----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint D" <driggars@...> To: <4x6bandsaw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] 4x6 Bandsaw Rexit, the other one is way off and can't get it corrected for nothingstraight maybecut. Of course I'm just assuming the 3/4" blade will cut straight; that's a fallacy. Anyone know?
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Rex Smith
I've tried with very light cutting pressures; same result.
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----Original Message Follows---- From: <lenord@...> Reply-To: 4x6bandsaw@... To: <4x6bandsaw@...> Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] 4x6 Bandsaw Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:06:29 -0500 Clint, I've found that if I put too much downward pressure on the blade, cutting too fast, whether with weight added to the handle or fussing with the spring thing, I get an angled cut.............. FWIW Lenord ----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint D" <driggars@...> To: <4x6bandsaw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] 4x6 Bandsaw Rexit, the other one is way off and can't get it corrected for nothingthe straight3/4" blade, but the small size and low cost of my 4x6 trumps the maybecut. Of course I'm just assuming the 3/4" blade will cut straight; that's a fallacy. Anyone know? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* |
In a message dated 6/10/2003 9:49:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, rex@... writes:
The only downside to one of these wonders, is trying to get over That is about as close as I can get with a hacksaw anyway.? John in the high desert of California 12 inch Atlas Mini Mill Rusty file |
BOB WRIGHT
Depending which way the blade is cutting crooked, loosen the two
bolts on the guide arms and turn outward the opposite way that it cuts crooked, repeat until straight. Mine will cut piston ring type cuts all day in 3" pipe...Bob --- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "Rex Smith" <rex@h...> wrote: I've tried with very light cutting pressures; same result.cutting too fast, whether with weight added to the handle or fussing withthe spring thing, I get an angled cut..............one of my > saws. I have two of them, the first one cuts straight rightsince I got it,finally > > learned to live with it, and think it's slightly mitigatedwith the > bi-metalsaw with thethe straightstraight; maybelet you > > do jobs that you would be very reluctant to tackle with a handpowered > > hack saw.over > > allowing 1/8 to 1/4 inch oversize to the cut to make sure acrooked cut > > does not spoil the workpiece! 8-)_________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > |
Clint D
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It could be that I am using to much down pressure, I will try it lighter next time Clint ----- Original Message -----
From: <lenord@...> To: <4x6bandsaw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] 4x6 Bandsaw Clint,spring thing, I get an angled cut..............the cutstraight3/4" blade, but the small size and low cost of my 4x6 trumps themaybecut. Of course I'm just assuming the 3/4" blade will cut straight;that's a fallacy. Anyone know? does not spoil the workpiece! 8-)
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BOB WRIGHT
I posted a pic in photos under aametalmaster of some 4 inch alum bar
i recently cut. The saws will cut straight if set up correctly. Do not try to adjust the saw with a used blade it will only compound problems...Hope this helps..Bob --- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "Clint D" <driggars@e...> wrote: Rexof my saws. I have two of them, the first one cuts straight right since Igot it, the other one is way off and can't get it corrected for nothingfinally thelearned to live with it, and think it's slightly mitigated with bi-metalwith theblade. straight3/4" blade, but the small size and low cost of my 4x6 trumps the straight; maybecut. Of course I'm just assuming the 3/4" blade will cut let youthat's a fallacy. Anyone know? powereddo jobs that you would be very reluctant to tackle with a hand crooked cuthack saw. does not spoil the workpiece! 8-) |
Proper blade guide alignment, good sharp blade preferrably bimetal
10/14 and proper feedrate. My blade speed is set at the middle pulley position 95% of the time. See the photo: 27+Bandsaw+Mods&.src=gr&.dnm=Slice2.jpg&.view=t&.done=http% 3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/4x6bandsaw/lst%3f%26.dir=/Cletus% 2527%2bBandsaw%2bMods%26.src=gr%26.view=t I get to take some pretty thin and parallel cuts with my setup. Hope this helps. Cheers, Cletus 9Z4CLB --- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "Rex Smith" <rex@h...> wrote: Now if we could only understand why that is...of my saws. I have two of them, the first one cuts straight right sinceI got it, the other one is way off and can't get it corrected for nothingfinally > learned to live with it, and think it's slightly mitigated withthe bi-metalwith the > 3/4" blade, but the small size and low cost of my 4x6 trumpsthe straight > cut. Of course I'm just assuming the 3/4" blade will cutstraight; maybe > that's a fallacy. Anyone know?let you > do jobs that you would be very reluctant to tackle with a handpowered > hack saw.crooked cut > does not spoil the workpiece! 8-)_________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > |
Rex Smith
When you say guide arms, do you mean the arms that hold the roller bearings? If so, mine don't look adjustable. They are cast iron and move up and down, but don't seem to have a rotational adjustment.
----Original Message Follows---- From: "BOB WRIGHT" <aametalmaster@...> Reply-To: 4x6bandsaw@... To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: [4x6bandsaw] Re: 4x6 Bandsaw Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 01:05:40 -0000 Depending which way the blade is cutting crooked, loosen the two bolts on the guide arms and turn outward the opposite way that it cuts crooked, repeat until straight. Mine will cut piston ring type cuts all day in 3" pipe...Bob --- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "Rex Smith" <rex@h...> wrote: I've tried with very light cutting pressures; same result.cutting too fast, whether with weight added to the handle or fussing withthe spring thing, I get an angled cut..............one of my > saws. I have two of them, the first one cuts straight rightsince I got it,finally > > learned to live with it, and think it's slightly mitigatedwith the > bi-metalsaw with thethe straightstraight; maybelet you > > do jobs that you would be very reluctant to tackle with a handpowered > > hack saw.over > > allowing 1/8 to 1/4 inch oversize to the cut to make sure acrooked cut > > does not spoil the workpiece! 8-)_________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >_________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* |
BOB WRIGHT
Yes, The cast ends that hold the blade rollers. Mine has 1 bolt on
each arm that allows the blade to rotate inward and outward on the cutting edge. Adjust the opposite way that it is cutting off. Try to loosen one bolt and see what happens...Bob --- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "Rex Smith" <rex@h...> wrote: When you say guide arms, do you mean the arms that hold the rollerbearings? If so, mine don't look adjustable. They are cast iron and moveup and down, but don't seem to have a rotational adjustment.nothing > >I've finallywill let youhand powered |
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