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Downfeed control


ACiDiAC
 

Rod,
What did you fashion part number one out of? I have ordered the
same style piston for my saw and was just wondering. Thanks
Ken


 

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Ken
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I made part 1 out of solid stainless stock but the same desired effect could be achieved with some pipe the is the size of the hydraulic unit body.?1/4" steel strap rolled to fit then dremmel the slots into it if you don't have access to a mill.
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Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: ACiDiAC
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:47 AM
Subject: [4x6bandsaw] Downfeed control

Rod,
??? What did you fashion part number one out of? I have ordered the
same style piston for my saw and was just wondering. Thanks
Ken




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Alan Rothenbush
 

After seeing Rod's wonderful workmanship, it occurs to me that I must
be doing something wrong.

You see, I have no need to slow things down, on the way down.

In fact, I've removed that useless spring and its flesh-eating
handle. In fact, I routinely ADD weight to cuts; Al, mild steel
and even tool steel ...

Alan

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Alan
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Well I guess I am just spoiled that way: )?I like having the control on the saw head not just going down but holding the head in place while moving the stock instead of lifting the head all the way up. Now I also can?ADD weight on the saw head & not have to?figure out how?much weight I have on it I'll just adjust it with the hydraulics. Thanks for the comment on my workmanship.
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Rod

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Downfeed control

After seeing Rod's wonderful workmanship, it occurs to me that I must
be doing something wrong.

You see, I have no need to slow things down, on the way down.

In fact, I've removed that useless spring and its flesh-eating
handle.? In fact, I routinely ADD weight to cuts; Al, mild steel
and even tool steel ...

Alan

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Ken Watts
 

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Rod
??? Nope no mill or lathe here. Someday maybe. Guess I'll put the bender to use and bend some strap to fit,should work ok. Thanks for the great pics.
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Ken
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Just make sure you make the fit as close as possible, the tighter the fit the better the bracket will work.
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Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Watts
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Downfeed control

Rod
??? Nope no mill or lathe here. Someday maybe. Guess I'll put the bender to use and bend some strap to fit,should work ok. Thanks for the great pics.
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Alan Rothenbush
 

On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 09:30:32AM -0800, rangerod wrote:
Alan

Well I guess I am just spoiled that way: ) I like having the control on the saw head not just going down but holding the head in place while moving the stock instead of lifting the head all the way up.
I must admit that in the EXTREMELY cramped confines of my TINY shop, not
having to lift the head all the way, all the time, would be a welcome
addition ...

Now I also can ADD weight on the saw head & not have to figure out how much weight I have on it I'll just adjust it with the hydraulics.
Hmmm, good point .. very good point. Add the max required weight all at once,
then adjust hydraulically based upon stock.


That still leaves my original query .. why do I require additional weight
whereas everyone else with seemingly identical machines do not ? ...

Oh well, I'm about to make another stand for mine, which will require a
complete disassembly. I'll stare at things then and maybe find a source
of friction currently unknown.

Alan

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Alan
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What pitch blade are you using at this time? Another feature of the hydraulics is you should be able to use a coarser blade & control the downfeed so it does not strip the teeth off. Maybe your saw head is binding on the shaft it swivels on? Good luck with your trouble shooting.
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Rod

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Downfeed control

On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 09:30:32AM -0800, rangerod wrote:
> Alan
>
> Well I guess I am just spoiled that way: ) I like having the control on the saw head not just going down but holding the head in place while moving the stock instead of lifting the head all the way up.

I must admit that in the EXTREMELY cramped confines of my TINY shop, not
having to lift the head all the way, all the time, would be a welcome
addition ...

> Now I also can ADD weight on the saw head & not have to figure out how much weight I have on it I'll just adjust it with the hydraulics.

Hmmm, good point .. very good point.? Add the max required weight all at once,
then adjust hydraulically based upon stock.


That still leaves my original query .. why do I require additional weight
whereas everyone else with seemingly identical machines do not ? ...

Oh well, I'm about to make another stand for mine, which will require a
complete disassembly.? I'll stare at things then and maybe find a source
of friction currently unknown.

Alan

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These saws should cut ok without additional weight added. Is your blade
dull, or installed with the teeth facing the wrong direction?

Leo (pearland, tx)


Alan Rothenbush
 

On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 06:20:13PM -0600, dswr@... wrote:
These saws should cut ok without additional weight added. Is your blade
dull, or installed with the teeth facing the wrong direction?
No, the teeth aren't dull and certainly aren't installed backwards.

And it's not that it won't cut without added weight, but cuts WAY
faster with it.

I would guess that my current blade has 100 hours on it, more or less,
and even abusing it this way, shows no sign of needing replacement.

Alan

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I thought my suggestions were a wee bit too obvious. 8-)

I think any of these saws will cut faster with added pressure on the
blade. The limiting factors are power available and temperature
elevation of the blade.

As long as the blade does not stall and the temper is not drawn from the
blade, everything should be ok. (wear of the moving parts may be
greater)

The above is my opinion and may be worth the proverbial two cents! 8-)

Leo (pearland, tx)


Alan Rothenbush
 

On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 08:17:18PM -0600, dswr@... wrote:
I thought my suggestions were a wee bit too obvious. 8-)
I'll forgive you .. one day. <G>


I think any of these saws will cut faster with added pressure on the
blade. The limiting factors are power available and temperature
elevation of the blade.

As long as the blade does not stall and the temper is not drawn from the
blade, everything should be ok. (wear of the moving parts may be
greater)
I keep a close eye on the motor temperature, but while it does warm up
after 5 minutes or so of cutting, it never gets really hot, even after
an hour or better of continuous operation.

I'm currently using an 18 TPI blade. I bought it to cut a bunch of square
tubing, then was too lazy to change it before cutting some solid stock.

The solid stock cut just fine, great in fact, better than the 10-14 I had
been using. So on it stays.

Aluminum is a different matter, though. The coarser blade jams much less
frequently (if at all) than the finer on Al.

But an aquarium pump and coolant is in my immediate future; we'll see if
that helps the jamming problem.


Thanks for all the thoughts, gang !


Alan
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Richard Albers
 

--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., Alan Rothenbush <alan@s...> wrote:

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That still leaves my original query .. why do I require additional
weight
whereas everyone else with seemingly identical machines do not ? ...
Have you perhaps replaced the original motor? With a heavier one?
That's one possibility.

RA